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[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 66 points 3 months ago

"We developed an assay for testing for H5N1 from wastewater over a year ago. (I wasn't expecting it in milk, but I figured it was going to poke up somewhere.) However, I was just on a call with the CDC and they are advising us NOT to use it. I need a drink."

Molecular virologist Marc Johnson:

biden-harbinger

[-] penitentkulak@hexbear.net 45 points 3 months ago

biden-point

Trust the science, Jack!

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 41 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Joe Biden is the worst president in my lifetime and it’s not even close. George W Bush was a deranged evangelical psychopath and even he wasn’t bloodthirsty to the same extent that Joseph Robinette Brandon is.

Biden seems to just genuinely support death and destruction. The more people die, the better. Whether through disease or bombs. He’s a true worshipper of Moloch.

He’s turned the CDC into the worlds biggest promoter of disease spread, it’s honestly amazing. Completely dismantled anything that was in place to even slow or track the spread of COVID. Trying their hardest to ensure bird flu becomes a pandemic. Fuck, I saw something from the CDC recently saying “people aren’t using condoms as much so we’re gonna stop recommending it so hard” like I’m sorry what? It’s like he’s playing a game of Pandemic.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

I feel like any "traditional" president would have done the same, and that Trump only didn't because he doesn't really know what he's doing.

Also he's actually playing the Bio-Terrorist role in the Pandemic expansion On The Brink.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

I said Pandemic, I was actually thinking of Plague Inc.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

If you don't test, you won't find any cases; simple as

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 50 points 3 months ago

Even the poor mountain lions are getting bird flu now...

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago

Bird flu really hates outdoor cats.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago

Allah's divine justice

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

I'll protect the big (outdoor) cats in South Africa with the local community, we can't let them get sick. Imagine a lion or leopard getting flu kitty-birthday-sad

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

They'd need a pretty big tissue.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago

I don't know what to make of this, if it spreads by tainted meat it seems the risk is quite low, on the other hand if it's airborne well we know how that plays out

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 65 points 3 months ago

blob-no-thoughts Surly the goverment won't let it run rampant and unchecked. I mean, who would risk letting a rapidly mutating virus that is spreading between multiple different mammalian species go unchecked.

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

People who think the democrats would "follow the science" when a pandemic emerges are in for a surprise.

We'll be told to wash our hands.

We've had years to upgrade air filtration and ventilation in public buildings and offices and have barely done shit. If we got people to wear n95s in public we could stop most of the damage, but they absolutely will not spend the "political capital" to do so.

If anything, we'll encourage the spread to achieve "herd immunity".

[-] macabrett@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 months ago

People who think the democrats would "follow the science" ignored everything that's happened and happening around covid under Biden lol

[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

They'll be following the economic "science" and it tells them it's good actually because line go up or something.

[-] penitentkulak@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

If anything, we'll encourage the spread to achieve "herd immunity".

Whoops, we cut the size of the herd in half!

[-] penitentkulak@hexbear.net 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It at least can jump between animals to farm workers, and is found in raw milk (barn cats drinking raw milk caught it). The venn diagram of raw milk drinkers and COVID anti-vaxxers is pretty much a circle, so they're not going to stop drinking raw milk and will not take any precautions to keep others safe if they do get sick.

The more infections, the more pressure for further mutations that increase spread amongst mammals, just like we saw with COVID -> omicron -> jn1.

[-] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

unpasteurized milk is also a risk and theres definitely people drinking that. its not well adapted to human spread yet but letting it spread unchecked through the US's like 40 million cows and potentially other animals too, is a great way for it to acquire the mutations necessary to get a foothold in humans and start killing.

and its influenza... we already know it has that potential

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

This is literally my strategy on Plague Inc.

[-] SeducingCamel@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

Unpasteurized milk is getting popular with certain Facebook adjacent crowds

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago

marx-doomer something...something...tragedy...mumble...mumble...farce

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

if this shit pops off, its going to be even more of a tragedy and even more of a farce.

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

I don't have a large enough Marx doomer image to convey my sadness. harold-manic

[-] Ocommie63@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 3 months ago
[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 52 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's a good thing the powers that be didn't allow a virus to rampage through the population that just so happens to leave hosts with weakened immune systems.

[-] Ocommie63@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 3 months ago

Yea it would be terrible if that happened

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 41 points 3 months ago

blob-no-thoughts Oh boy, I sure do trust the United States goverment to prioritize public safety over short term buisness interest.

[-] Ocommie63@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago
[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago

It would be COVID-24 actually nerd

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

Fuckkk flashback to when my brainpoisoned father in law asked me about why there weren’t other covids like 18 or 17, like what happened to those years?

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In their wildest nightmares, the CDC and FEMA has concentration camps, Soros funded soldiers goes house to house to vaccinate you and establish communism with Hussein Obama as the ruler. But in reality the CDC ad FEMA just does everything conservatives want lol

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

Artist's depiction of USA disease response team (Neo) and the upcoming H5N1 pandemic (Agent Smith): https://youtu.be/qTcxhshCElc?t=53

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Hey so if I want to go beyond just a KN95, what’s a good mask I can like, right now?

[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago

I don't think you need more than N95 for protection from airborne viruses. You can go up to P100, but it will make breathing harder. Your biggest win would come from getting a well-fitting elastomeric mask/respirator with N95 filters, and ideally, no unfiltered output port (for other people's benefit).

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

As someone who's had to wear a P100 half-mask respirator for reasonable periods (2-3 hours) before, it's not really a big deal unless you have respiratory issues. Even the chain-smoking chuds at my old work who refused to mask because it made "breathing too hard" had no issues wearing one.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

I remember having to do a gig where we had to wear respiratory masks a few years ago and our union had mandated that you could not wear them for more than 4 consecutive hours and for a total of 8 hours a day, due to the risk of developing liquid in your lungs. I've never looked into it since, but it's always freaked me out. Beats having COVID tho

[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

Thanks; I haven't tried one and was only going by what a friend who introduced me to elastomeric masks said.

[-] sappho@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The single best thing you can do to ensure you're protecting yourself is to do a home fit test. Surgical masks, KN95s, N95s have generally the same kind of filtration layer; the essential difference is the fit. Is it sealing on your face with <10% leakage, even when worn for long periods and while you speak and make facial expressions? You can't really know this for sure unless you do a fit test.

It is pretty cheap and easy to do a DIY fit test.

Here's a video that explains how to do it with a trash bag, some Splenda, and a $7 nebulizer.

Here is a written guide.

[-] penitentkulak@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A p100 with an exhalation valve. I use a gvs eclipse because it looks the most "normal" and is light so it's comfortable for long stretches. Got it at Lee Valley, have seen them on Amazon.

Edit: you won't be protecting others with this mask, I'm not worried about that because I live like a hermit. If you are then follow @TrashGoblin@hexbear.net's advice

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

I gave up on source control years ago. People can figure their own shit out, I can't help them in the current "covid isn't real" paradigm.

[-] sappho@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

There's a source control version of the Eclipse with no exhalation valve. One could also just cover the exhalation valve with either something impermeable or the electrostatic filtration layer scavenged from a medical mask or respirator if needed.

Other elastomerics that are popular these days:

MSA Advantage (speech diaphragm, with source control)

3M Secure Click (speech diaphragm, great feature where it auto-seal checks for you, no source control)

Honeywell RU8500 (speech diaphragm, no source control)

FloMask (low profile, good speech audibility, source control)

EnvoMask (low profile, source control)

[-] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Not sure if you were talking about this one but the GVS Elipse I use (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B095YC3ZD5) has no exhalation valve! It fits small faces and is pretty comfortable for long use cases, only issue is it gets wet from all the humidity so when I'm done with it I use a paper towel to carefully wick out all the water and then air it out.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

The only thing about n95 is p100s. Idk if they even make p100 face masks. At that point you're looking at a half face or full face respirator.

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

You can get N99 or N100 masks. I haven't seen any that don't have a valve for breathing out so they don't protect others, just yourself.

For masks, the convention is that the number is its ability to filter out small particles and the letter is for whether it also protects (P) against oil-based particles or not (N), with R offering partial oil protection. There's nothing wrong with using a P99 or P100 but it's probably not doing anything more than an N99 or N100 for airborne diseases.

The silicone respirators that you can hook N/P100s to can be pretty nice. They have better airflow, in my experience, but are also much heavier. You'll get a wet face using one for hours.

As others mentioned, fit is important. If you have a gap in your seal you've kind of defeated the difference between N95 and N100 already. If you have facial hair, shave. Then fit your mask to your face by adjusting the nose thing or the straps if they are adjustable. Do some rapid breaths in and out and see if there's pressure/vacuum.

Also N95 is probably enough for the vast majority of scenarios. Given that money is limited, it might be better to buy many N95s rather than fewer N99s or N100s so that you can rotate them. I keep around the higher-Ns for occasions that seem particularly risky like poorly ventilated areas packed with people.

[-] rio@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

Buy toilet paper while you still can

[-] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Can it be done like this?

how-compelling maybe-later-honey

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