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'Looks at perfectly functional Galaxy Watch 3 on my wrist'

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 116 points 2 months ago

Bad headline. They’re sunsetting Tizen for watches, but not other products.

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[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 76 points 2 months ago

This is a huge problem for Samsung. This is proof they cannot maintain an OS, making them further dependent on Google. They chose a Linux compatible toolkit (EFL from Enlightenment) and tried making their own OS. It was terrible and filled with security holes.

I think they should rebase Tizen on PostMarketOS, as I don't believe Samsung can create their own base.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Of course they can't. It's gotten so bad they ship their TVs with antivirus on them. The only reason anyone uses their Android phones is they have the best hardware, most of their add-on software is just useless gimmicks people turn off. Tizen on watches was never going to work. Apple has a large enough ecosystem to attract app developers. Google has a large enough ecosystem to attract app developers. Samsung does not. Smartest thing they could do now is shut down their remaining software development. Ship the TVs with vanilla Google OS like LG, strip the bloatware off their phones, etc. They would lose face but their products would become way better.

[-] nikt@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago

Doesn’t LG use WebOS?

Or at least they did three years ago when I wanted to buy a TV but everything was back ordered to he’ll…

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My 2 LGs do use WebOS, but I never use it. I have a raspberry pi for one, and the other one is my laptops second screen, so everything is fed from the laptop. I never see the TV's OS

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago

Perfect, now Google can kill Wear OS without fear of tizen taking it all.

Mission accomplished!

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 months ago

Isn't tizen also on their smart TVs?

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

Yes, but this article and the sources only say this is impacting their watches.

[-] Srootus@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 months ago

Yes, and fridges and probably washing machines

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[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 43 points 2 months ago

Are they going to allow me to reflash it with whatever i want tho?

[-] Srootus@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 months ago

haha ha haaaaa

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago

No. Why? Because, duck you, that's why.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

Can we get Louis rossman onto it?

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago

A problem I deftly sidestepped by avoiding "smart" watches altogether.

[-] aramova@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Garmin watches are semi-smart and have great sensors. My Epix 2 Sapphire runs for 11 days on a charge as well.

Tried a Pixel, returned it for refund. Don't use iPhone or Samsung phone so their bespoke software wouldn't work for me.

[-] raptore39@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

Garmin Instinct 2 Solar gives me 31 days on a full charge if it doesn't get any sunlight. It is smart enough to vibrate me awake without waking my partner and receive notifications, no matter what Android/iOS phone I use.

What were your main gripes with the Pixel watch?

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[-] vext01 11 points 2 months ago

Me too. I don't see the point. My life is already full of distractions and I bet the batteries in those are hard to replace when they inevitably don't hold charge any more.

Buy g-shock, know time. Good.

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[-] Guest_User@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago
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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pebble all over again.

I'm just not getting a smartwatch. I don't even trust Apple to keep supporting their watches after a couple of years.

Built-in obsolescence is bad enough. At the very least, these things should work until the hardware dies. Nope. Not anymore.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Samsung switched from Tizen to WearOS literally 4 months after I got my Galaxy watch 2. That was annoying. $200 is way too much to spend on such a short-lived product.

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I mean, Fossil ended support for my Gen 5 a while back and... It still works. I mean, I mostly use it as an alarm and "ability to feel my phone vibrate when ringing" machine but it still operates...

Until it doesn't, I guess. The battery life is already shit and I'm jealous of my partner's Garmin.

[-] GingeyBook@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Garmin is the way to go.

Their hybrid models are chefs kiss

[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Garmin did the same thing with Forerunner. They stopped software support 6 months after release of 220, and the very moment 235 was released. Their tech support's answer to any problem was "do a factory reset". And yet they are still considered one of the best brands for navigation and sports.

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[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago
[-] Srootus@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Casio Is GOD TIER

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Available in gold.

[-] lando55@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

F91W will never not be supported

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago

Perfectly? Your battery really lasting all day long? I gave up my 3 last year as unless I started making compromises, I could not get a full day without charging (mind you I'm an up very early and bed very late person, so it's a long day I was asking for).

[-] Srootus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep, mine still lasts 2 days if I push it, though Ive been plonking it on its puck every morning while I get up since I got it at launch, its only ever dropped below 20% a handful of times. Sure ive been charging it more than most, but it doesnt do full battery cycles per charge so its lasted longer

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

46MM Galaxy Watch here and I can get 24H or sometimes a bit more provided I switch it to night mode when I'm sleeping. Still using AOD, cont HR monitor etc. Yeah, this old thing is getting long in the tooth, but I came to it from WearOS, really don't want to go back.

Not a lot is appealing to me in the smartwatch market currently. Good for my wallet, I suppose.

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[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago

I remember Samsung trying to run a WWDC-like conference in San Francisco many years ago. They were offering free Tizen watches as enticement for developers to show up (AppleWatch devs had to buy their own). None of the professional mobile devs I knew back then said they would go.

As Microsoft found out with WindowsPhone, it's really hard to get traction if you're third.

[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Tbf that’s because Microsoft got in bed with Nokia and gave the finger to everyone else

[-] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

Nokia era Lumias were amazing phones, and I loved the OS, but a lack of apps kept it from ever being a contender. Still miss my live tiles though.

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[-] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is not about the smart tv tizen, no? I see the article talks about smartwatches. The naming on Samsung's side is confusing.

[-] Srootus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Nope, purely about the watch os

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[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

There are still issues with WearOS, but I think some of that is hardware. Last I heard, Qualcomm's wearable SoCs were trash, but Samsung is in a good position since they have both the SoC fab and make the watch itself.

Many industries are shifting to a model where Android is the de facto OS for consumer-facing interactions. It's not well optimized outside of phones yet, but it is rapidly improving. Many cars run Android now, for example.

I'm moderately optimistic about the next generation of WearOS devices.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

WearOS, at least the Samsung variant of it, is goddamned awful. It seems to want to be a full standalone device when I want it to just be an extension of my phone, and it's an extension of my phone when I want it to stand alone. Worst of both worlds.

I miss my Pebble. Week-long battery, truly always-on-screen, and knew what it was trying to be (just show me notifications)

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I'll buy a phone and laptop, but I'm done investing in any other products that won't guarantee a basic feature set for the life of their device.

[-] Persen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Furtunately (at least for the users), gadgetbridge exists.

[-] faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

As far as I know, gadgetbridge does not support tizenOS smartwatches

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

LOL! And that is why I didn't get one.

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