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[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 29 points 1 month ago

I don't think Dems like leftists very much either, considering how the Democratic Party has treated all candidates who are even remotely left of center, and how they basically shout at leftists that "they're supporting Nazis if they won't support their genocide."

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The Overton window has shifted. Center isn't where you think it is any longer.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

no, words still have meaning. left describes a specific set of values that liberals do not have.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You don't have a clue what an Overton window is do you...lol

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

i do, and just because it's the story you like to tell doesn't change the meaning of words.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm a leftist, and I vote for the lesser evil out of harm reduction, with no hope of positive change and just not to be indirectly responsible for there being more political scapegoating by fascists as we collapse due to ~~unchecked encouraged~~ worshipped capitalist greed.

I just wish the Neoliberals would stop pretending a vote for their cocktail of "socially left, economically whatever Wall Street wants" is going to fix anything. Its a vote for "this is fine." which is infinitely better than "hate race/religion/sexuality X, they're why you're miserable!" but still not helpful.

Most of the social issue symptoms we scream at each other about are either caused by or greatly exacerbated by the economy Americans don't get a vote on, as the Neoliberals and the fascists are looooong since legally bribed and paid for with the same economic policy marching orders.

I just wish we could be honest about our elections and what we do and don't get a choice on instead of the absolutely absurdist marketing, another side effect of our socioeconomic greed disease.

Do we want to collapse as we destroy our only habitat (for humans don't worry, even we can't sterilize the earth) and any societal framework between one another with(R) or without(D) a side of race/religious/gender equity wars in the streets being stoked by our greed class captured government?

That's all you have to say. Id rather not have that side dish, so I'm voting Biden again.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 8 points 1 month ago

I'll vote for harm reduction if it comes down to it but if democrats want an endorsement they'll have to do more than what they're doing now.

I'm not obligated to encourage anyone to vote for the lesser evil so long as the lesser evil still has an opportunity to be less evil.

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[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Depends on the Democrats you're talking about.

The conservative Obstructionist Democrats are the only ones I have an issue with. By contrast, AOC, Jamaal Bowman, Summer Lee etc. all Democrats I can work with, np.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Democrats and caving to a single obstructionist, name a more iconic duo.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Democrats and finding a new obstructionist when the current one retires.

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[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

I literally don't know the difference. I see so many different political affiliations. Would either of these people be considered liberals? Honest question.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Depends on how you're used to using 'liberal'. By the US usage of liberal ("anyone who is not a conservative or reactionary"), both of these are liberals. But leftists often object to the term, using liberal in an older (and to some degree, more international) sense to mean supporters of market economies.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

Us liberals like the aesthetics of the international definition, which is why they coopt it even though they disregard the most relevant distinction

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

Now I'm even more confused lol. Thanks for the reply.

[-] mydude@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Do not try and bend the democrat; that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth… there is no progressive democrat. Then you'll see that it is not the democrat that bends; it is only yourself.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

The matrix being an allegory for leftists escaping electoral politics is an appealing interpretation.

[-] dragThruGardenPlz@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Wouldn’t this post being controversial suggest that it’s a flat “No”?

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

I think a 50/50 split would actually be appropriate for this meme.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Leftists to the democrats as they're both being led to a small room underground with a sloping drain in the back and a Trump 2028 banner on the wall:

"This is all your fault."

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

~~Leftists~~ democrats to the ~~democrats~~ leftists as they’re both being led to a small room underground with a sloping drain in the back and a Trump 2028 banner on the wall:

FTFY

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The point isn't who's fault it is. The point is that both of them will be going up against the wall if trump wins. Laying blame won't save either of them.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

It's not the time to point fingers, we're in this together, I say as I clean the rest of the neighbors's cat's blood from my pitbull

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

In this metaphor, The cops are coming to shoot you and your neighbor so they can take your pit bull down to the shelter and let him play with all the cats there.

The pit bull is fine and will remain fine. The pit bull loves the cops and can't wait to be let off the leash for real.

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