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[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I didn't like her purchase and manipulation of the Democrat party, and abrogating the democratic process in denying the people their choice of Bernie Sanders.

But hey, let's not quibble about words.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Yeah, from my perspective, it failed long before that. The Democrats couldn't achieve their true objective if they had allowed Bernie to be elected, which was to give the illusion of a better option while ensuring that the status quo isn't affected where it relates to power and wealth.

Bernie was blocked for the same reason Biden isn't trying to block Israel from destroying Palestine.

[-] meliaesc@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

And now we have a convicted felon poised to be dictator.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Such a wide open door to walk through, and our broken incestuous Democrat party couldn't get their shit together enough to run a candidate who can talk.

DON'T BLAME THE VOTERS.

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[-] smnwcj@fedia.io 168 points 6 days ago

I think the wheel of history turns on a greater axle than a presidential election. Look at Europe, and the rest of the global north. The machine of neoliberal imperialism has created global instability and climate crisis, and the rich are locking down their spoils with right wing nationalism.

Trump was a fluke, he'd have had more bites at the apple in 2020/2024 and eventually get a win. If not him, then some evangelical fascist.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago

Absolutely. We’re seeing a return of authoritarian candidates in many first world nations. The people that witnessed Hitler’s rise are mostly gone, leaving many to overlook or minimize similar patterns of behavior.

As far as the US is concerned, Trump made the hat. Someone else will put it on.

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[-] rwhitisissle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago

The machine of neoliberal imperialism has created global instability and climate crisis, and the rich are locking down their spoils with right wing nationalism.

I want this on my tombstone so the alien archeologists that eventually visit our ruined husk of a world can know what happened.

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[-] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 74 points 5 days ago

So... People tell me an election year is no time to talk about electoral reform. Every US election year. But! After the election, they scurry away under the refrigerator and stay there for 4 years. I know you have to hold your nose while you vote this time, but catch these weird centrists before they disappear and hold their feet to the fire to influence change. You deserve better than this "I'm not voting for _, I'm voting against _" nonsense. Your government is hurting all of us. Stop it, please.

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[-] TVgog56789@lemy.lol 23 points 4 days ago

I mean yeah that's true but it's not like Trump is gonna be pro-palestine.

If anything he is gonna be even more pro-israel because it's a white supremacist colony.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

it’s not like Trump is gonna be pro-palestine

Trump loves Netanyahu for doing in Israel what he wants to do in the US.

Biden loves Israel because he's bought all the Only Liberal Democracy In The Middle East propaganda they've been spewing for decades.

But if you're a college student getting your head cracked by a SWAT team storming the Columbia campus, Biden is the one asking for your vote. Trump is asking for the SWAT guy's vote.

And that's why Trump is going to win. The SWAT guy is going to turn out for Trump while the protester spends the day in the ER.

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[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 101 points 6 days ago

More like people were betrayed by the DNC and rejected an unpopular candidate that was thrusted onto them.

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 62 points 5 days ago

The dnc really ought to let voters nominate their own candidates, instead of force feeding us their choice.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 54 points 5 days ago

That is far too democratic to ever be a thing in your country. The political system is financed and thus owned by the capital, so they will never permit a not capitalist to have any political success. Bernie, a by all objective measures very moderate leftist, is the furthest the spectrum goes, and he is more tolerated as a sort of token minority than realistically able to affect any real change.

If people were able to select and push their own candidates the whole big money oligarchy collapses.

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[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 78 points 5 days ago

The American supreme courts massive and 180 turn from the previous decades of law is the textbook definition of tyranny. America used to have a grand tradition of what to do with tyrants.

[-] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 49 points 5 days ago

America always had big propaganda against other people's tyrants, never against their own.

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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 60 points 5 days ago

Bad take.

You get genocide either way; one is a guy trying to stop the genocide that's been negotiating behind the scenes for months (and yes, also giving the Israelis arms), and the other guy wants to accelerate the genocide while also ending democracy.

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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago

Uhhh and today the SCOTUS decided that Trump can never be prosecuted for anything he did or will do whilst president, so actually, democracy died today. Biden won't abuse this. Trump will, and there will be nothing to stop him from enacting his dictator plans. About that, and the political assassinations, and the president for life, I think Trump is serious.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The DNC signed it's death warrant with that one. Bernie got screwed. We got Trump. The Supreme Court just handed Trump ultimate supreme dictator status. We all know Biden doesn't have the balls to do anything about it and he certainly isn't going to win the election.

As long as the R's can get 40 seats in the Senate this fall the great experiment finally fails.

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[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

People who think our presidential elections are only recently fucked up are morons. Since basically day 1 the politics and seedyness and bullshit going on behind the scenes has always been insane.

There's some kind of narcissistic selfishness that constantly has a need for THIS time, OUR time to be the worst ever.

I mean, for the majority of the country's history, huge portions of its population had literally no democracy due to no right to vote. But I guess we'll ignore that.

We had portions of our history that were rocky as hell due to shifting balances of power between the federal branches, especially in the first 100 years.

We literally had a fucking civil war.

It's always so interesting to me how people just ignore how bad it's always been, and how many times the country did not, in fact, literally end, and yet they STILL gin up end of the country fearmongering constantly in every election cycle.

None of this is truly new.

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

"Keep quiet or Ill turn this democracy around, so help me God!"

[-] Matombo@feddit.org 16 points 4 days ago

If from 2 choices 1 means the death of democracy, the democracy is already dead. That was already true back then. I hate this post because I completly bushes over that fact and is only there to guilt trip people who want real change outside the 2 party system.

[-] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Vote D, and also do your v-for-vendetta shenanigans. No reason not to do both if you're all in.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 55 points 6 days ago

Says the people who swallowed the genocide every year they've been alive but decided to get unproductively upset at the moment it will help conservatives most.

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[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

We’re still doing ‘I don’t like his vibes’.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

No, no, I was assured Hillary Clinton was Basically The Same as Trump and Both Sides Were Bad.

[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago

3 SCOTUS picks in 4 years and a lot of the shit happening now is the direct result of that.

Imagine what a 7-2 (or 8-1) Conservative Supreme Court would do...

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

It’ll be worse than that. If Trump wins in the fall, it’ll be due to Democratic abstentions. The downballot effects would likely result in Republican control of Congress.

They’ll be able to expand and pack the court all they’d like with Senate and House majority.

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[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Things could be different but they're not

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

What's happening in Gaza now has been happening a long time, as President Carter said people weren't demanding change or horrified in general because ''they don't know, they don't want to know''. The passive approval has been there a long long time. Biden may actually respond to pressure, Trump will be directed by his evangelical base to stoke all out unilateral war, and he'll approve it.

Nothing here is simple, Biden doesn't control Isreal, and neither will Trump or anyone else, Trump used 'Palestinian' as a slur, an insult. He also expressed his stance against Biden as Biden not aiding Isreal MORE. Who do you think is going to effect change in the direction of ending the genocide?

If you're against the genocide, why in the world would you let the very pro genocide candidate win?

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[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Y—…you guys think Israel being an apartheid state is less than 8 years old?

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

That's not what this is saying, no.

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago

People still clamoring for Clinton are why we ended up with Trump and not two terms of Bernie.

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