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[-] Shameless@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

I just read through some of their policies... I just can't fathom how people read their policies and say "That's the party for me!"

They want to build 10,000 prisons, like wtf????

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 39 points 1 month ago

I can guarantee that 99% of the people who voted for them didn't read their manifesto. They just like the way the party hates the same people they do and that Nige is just like one of us.

[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 18 points 1 month ago

"Our Nige, he's just like a normal bloke he is, you know. He's one of us. Rather than being a private-school-educated, upper class, millionaire career politician with a background in the financial sector, he's just a normal everyday ex-financial-sector career politician, that's also a millionaire, and also upper class and also private-school-educated. He's only been a politician for 25 years, so he's pretty new at it and a fresh new anti-establishment underdog. He's just a normal bloke trying his best"

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

To be fair, a lot of their policies directly help the working class. Like raising the tax threshold to £20,000. They couldn't fund any of it, as they're simultaneously promising to cut taxes on the most wealthy. But if you listen to a lot of what Farage says, it's the same as every other party, but he's also promising radical change and radical solutions.

As misinformed, racist, and bigoted as they are, they're playing hard to the poorest in our society and present as the most pro working class party.

Just to make it clear, they're a disgusting party, and I'm not even slightly suggesting anyone should ever vote for them. Just to actually acknowledge your opponent's strengths so we can better combat them before the next election

Edit: Made it clearer what the £20,000 policy was

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

Cutting taxes doesn't help the poorest in society. We've also had 14 years of governments cutting tax and spending and the country is fucked, not to put too fine a point on it. I genuinely don't see how anyone can look at where we are a think the problem is that rich people are paying too much tax.

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Raising the tax threshold to £20,000 will absolutely help the poorest in society, especially short term which many currently need help with.

You are correct with the rest of your comment though, which is exactly why I said it was unfunded, and that simultaneously cutting taxes on the rich is a ludicrous idea.

My point is that there are other reasons why people would support Reform than just being frothing at the mouth racists

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 14 points 1 month ago
[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Every nonce is unique

[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 12 points 1 month ago

On a different note, why the increase in the UK using “gotten”? Please stop.

[-] jeeva@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

It's clearly down to the increase in visible moustache-twirling villains in the news, saying stuff like "and I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids."

Or something.

Personally, I'm also annoyed at the increased use of "needs done", which feels like it's missing half a sentence. But hey, languages are big - and can fit a lot of different usage.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

needs done

Could you use it in a sentence, or is that literally the sentence?

“Can you clean the toilet? It needs done.” - like this, or?

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 14 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the knee-trembler, consider my needs done.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Yes like that the carpet needs vacuumed. I hate it. They remove the Hamlet from the situation there is no " to be"

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

They drop "to be" for infinitive verbs. The clothes need washed. That bully needs beat up. Etc.

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

My brother-in-law says the dishes "need washed" and I can't tell you how badly that grates on me.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

Was he dropped on his head as a child because there's clearly something not right there?

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

They need educated

[-] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

It has definitely gotten worse, I blame the parents

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago
[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago
[-] casmael@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Safe yeh hundred percen’ m8

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago

sounds like you've done got gotten

languages change gramps, get with the times.

[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

Get with the times. as in the 1500s?

Get off my lawn, you damn colonial kids!

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I've used gotten for decades in the US?

[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

I have heard that US English is much closer to the English of the 1600s, whereas ours evolved under the influence of French, and I guess some things dropped out of common usage. Gotten being one of them, posssibly until the invention of YouTube sped up globalisation.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Oh that's interesting. Because we all think of the British accent as code for colonial period speech on TV shows.

[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

I was watching a video about that the other day, turns out the generic American accent is probably closer to the English accent of the time than ours is.

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago
[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Haha damnit

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You also use question marks to end statements.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

In that context, you're implying that you can't believe you use it that way

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Sometimes I can't believe anything.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

Our ill-gotten language changes will forever haunt us

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

What's wrong with polling stations in primary schools?

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

I believe the joke is that people who would vote for reform are legally not allowed within 100 meters of a school zone.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago
[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 11 points 1 month ago

Nothing, if you're allowed within 500 feet of one

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Implying they're nonces who aren't allowed near schools.

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