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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago

Similar to my surprise when I reread world war z and discoverd that the cool ass zombie book I read when I was 15 actually sucked ass

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

Extremely funny for it to have the reputation of like realistic zombie fiction and then theres a whole chapter in japan with a samurai otaku and blind shaolin warrior monk travelling the lands.

Not so funny is all the racism in it.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also Russia being taken over by Rasputin, if I recall correctly. I still remember the last line from the Russia chapter, because it makes no sense. It's something about "and you know what the word tzar comes from". Which is like, okay so he's calling himself Caesar? How does that matter.

The racism is kinda funny in a way, because it's just every single stereotype you can make up. The Brits fight with longswords and love the queen, the Russians have Rasputin, the Canadians don't exist.
And there's some cool stuff like the french catacombs.
The Palestine chapter should get him executed.

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

All of the DPRK disappears into mountain bunker complexes for no reason and the book acts like its some mystery whats up now, like they wouldnt just all starve to death like that cause theres no agriculture going on.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

The book doesn't really ever answer the question of where all the foods coming from. It has people transporting goods and people rebuilding after, but like I don't recall any interviews with farmers.

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Food comes from the grocery store, silly!

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

There's one chapter where a government bigwig (iirc) is happy now because they spend all their time growing crops. That's all I got

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah there's a chapter of a guy being proud they can make root beer again because global trade is returning, but there's not a lot of detail about how peiple procured food during the war (apart from "the government flew supplies to camps, but like where did the government get supplies from?)

This book about a global zombie apocalypse is unrealistic!

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

And iirc it's said that Kim Jong-Il (at the time the book was written) ordered the removal of every citizen's teeth so that they couldn't bite anyone if they turned into a zombie

Pure brainworms

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

The catacombs and the nuclear sub chapters are mostly what I remember and they were rad.

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

The story of the pilot who gets downed in a dark forest and helped by a voice on the radio called Mets Fan is a great little horror short too

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

People are dunking on the book but I thought it had it's moments.

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's not great, but the faux documentary format is legitimately kinda cool

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

The politics are dogshit liberalism, but I think the overall story and presentation is very solid.

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Definitely, I dug that one.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I completely forgot about the sub!

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

The first time I read it, I was like 14 or something, and everyone talked about how realistic the geopolitics were and being 14 I believed them. It wasn't for a few years that I revisited it and saw that it was the most liberal bullshit.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago
[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

The only part about DPRK that I remember was it being mentioned that during, or maybe even before, the initial outbreak, they went dark, stopped communicating with the entire world, and nobody knew what happened to them - if they shut themselves off to stay alive, or if an infection broke out and killed everyone

[-] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

This guy did an AMA on reddit when covid hit because he thought his zombie novel gave him expertise.

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Did he ever suggest that "Chinese black market organs" spread Covid just like in his book?

[-] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but have you considered that this scene from the movie

Is just like chuds losing their shit over not being allowed to go to Burger King? Checkmate, leftists

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh you have no idea, I wish I could find the clip of him on smurf-cursed literally crying (actual tears in his eyes, I swear) about how much he hates China because it's hilarious

[-] shath@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

i need it i need it pleasepowercry-1

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I didn't realize for the longest time that Duncan Jones, the director of Moon and the awful Warcraft movie, was David Bowie's son lol

[-] D61@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I burned through a copy of WW Z a handful of years ago.

I liked the "war diary" presentation. Didn't really catch on at the stereotyping because I wasn't paying attention and enjoying the stupid story book when all the zombie entertainment was flooding the market.

I did get caught up in how silly the USA's military response was portrayed. Kettling thousands of zombies in a city and then dropping bombs/artillery on top of them would do a pretty good job of shattering skulls and liquefying brains. Shit, just having any tracked armored vehicle with mine rollers on the front could have done a great job dezombiefying a city's worth of zombies just by kettling the Z's and then slowly driving in a straight light down a street. Instead, bombs and artillery were described as having no effect (unless my memory is completely wrong), which... just isn't how explosions work.

There's entire sections of any modern military doctrine about digging holes/trenches for fighting positions and obstacles. Dig a series of narrow/shallow trenches with tanglefoot wire obstacles between trenches, lure a city full of zombies towards them and any zombie that falls down is pulped by the thousands of other zombies walking over them. Your bait team just walks or drives away.

Of all the ways to bash the US military, criticizing its ability in destroying a large population of squishy targets tightly packed together is absolutely not the most believable story device.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Now I want to see someone do the mine roller thing in a zombie flick

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Men in tights (just saying)

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

The circumcision guillotine bit is chefs-kiss

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

It's not his best, but it's honest dumb fun

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Tight tights!

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

World War Z is still the best zombie fiction (for better or worse) because it actually ends. Every other zombie story fizzles out or becomes Man vs Man with the zombies fading into the background. I cannot stress enough how much zombie fiction pervaded culture in the 2000s, rivaling MARVEL in the 2010s, so somebody pulling a Blazing Saddles on the genre was desperately needed.

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