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Collins followed up with another tweet calling for the local county prosecutor to “immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.”

Someone didn't get the memo from SCOTUS.

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[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 280 points 1 month ago

The Republican District Attorney in Butler County, PA, should immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.

Why? Supreme court very explicitly said that it would be legal.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 121 points 1 month ago

Ok let them bring the charges against him and let's have the supreme clown court explicitly say it's not an official act. Let's get that on record now.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 131 points 1 month ago

Like the six stooges on the court wouldn't find it unofficial for Biden and then two months later say the exact same thing is legal when a Republican does it.

The record means nothing to these fascists.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

SCOTUS says that charges can't even be brought unless there is a legal procedure where it's proved to be not "an official act," and DoJ has the burden of proof on that.

Let's say we're living in Crazytown (a stretch, I know), and Biden did order this assassination attempt. The legal process for actually charging Biden with anything would be so long as to deny justice, and that doesn't even count the additional time it would take to try the case and come to a verdict.

Let's say we're living in an alternate universe Crazytown, where Trump actually died, too. That years-long legal process would still be in effect, and "Biden with a Goatee" would enjoy the political benefits of the assassination the entire time, even if he was ultimately charged and found guilty and sentenced to prison several years later.

This is why the SCOTUS ruling on criminal immunity for Presidents is America's Enabling Act.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

On the other hand, I can totally see a future Republican president digging up Biden's corpse and putting it on trial like he was the Pope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Synod

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That reminds me of that Lewis Black joke where they dig up a dead justice to swear in a dead candidate and it's just 2 hours of silence on live national television. He joked that if we did that, no terrorist would ever fuck with the US again because they'd be so creeped out.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

The exact type of scenario was posed to the Court and SCOTUS bought it.

We tried warning you all.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago
[-] Ioughttamow@kbin.run 16 points 1 month ago

Clearly he wasn’t acting officially as president when he used the EPA to poison this young man’s mind with freedom (pfas) free water. He was acting as the authoritarian head of ANTIFA

[-] goferking0 9 points 1 month ago
  • only legal if we say it is/if done by republican - - SC
[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 118 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Biden would not have sent a 20 year old Republican to do it, lol...

These people lack the most fundamental critical thinking skills...

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's a reason conspiracy theories run rampant on the right. These people are so gullible, and a big part of it has to do with the fact that they are far less educated on average. As a result they tend to just follow news they want to believe in as opposed to challenging their own biases.

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 month ago

lack the most fundamental critical thinking skills

that's how cults work

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 21 points 1 month ago

It's a defining feature of conservatism

Does Lower Cognitive Ability Predict Greater Prejudice?

[T]here exists a solid empirical paper trail demonstrating that lower cognitive abilities (e.g., abstract-reasoning skills and verbal, nonverbal, and general intelligence) predict greater prejudice. We discuss how the effects of lower cognitive ability on prejudice are explained (i.e., mediated) by greater endorsement of right-wing socially conservative attitude. […]

Right-wing ideologies offer well-structured and ordered views about society that preserve traditional societal conventions and norms (e.g., Jost, Glaser, Kruglanski, & Sulloway, 2003). Such ideological belief systems are particularly attractive to individuals who are strongly motivated to avoid uncertainty and ambiguity in preference for simplicity and predictability (Jost et al., 2003; Roets & Van Hiel, 2011). Theoretically, individuals with lower mental abilities should be attracted by right-wing social-cultural ideologies because they minimize complexity and increase perceived control (Heaven, Ciarrochi, & Leeson, 2011; Stankov, 2009). Conversely, individuals with greater cognitive skills are better positioned to understand changing and dynamic societal contexts, which should facilitate open-minded, relatively left-leaning attitudes (Deary et al., 2008a; Heaven et al., 2011; McCourt, Bouchard, Lykken, Tellegen, & Keyes, 1999). Lower cognitive abilities therefore draw people to strategies and ideologies that emphasize what is presently known and considered acceptable to make sense and impose order over their environment. Resistance to social change and the preservation of the status quo regarding societal traditions—key principles underpinning right-wing social-cultural ideologies—should be particularly appealing to those wishing to avoid uncertainty and threat.

Indeed, the empirical literature reveals negative relations between cognitive abilities and right-wing social-cultural attitudes, including right-wing authoritarian (e.g., Keiller, 2010; McCourt et al., 1999), socially conservative (e.g., Stankov, 2009; Van Hiel et al., 2010), and religious attitudes (e.g., Zuckerman, Silberman, & Hall, 2013).

[-] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

These people lack the most fundamental critical thinking skills...

This has been proven time and time again.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 83 points 1 month ago

something tells me the people that would be working on bidens behalf would not have missed

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago

Either way, if Biden ordered it, it's fine unless congress removes him from office.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'd imagine Biden has access to lots of government officials who would have the capacity to get much closer to trump then 100m without having to go through security. Also once again the republicans accuse Biden of something most of us know he doesn't have the balls for. If Biden was half the things the republicans accuse him of being he'd probably be my favorite politician ever.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Biden also has access to drones.

Lot less deniability with drones but I suppose you don't need to deny what is now legal.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Either way, if Biden ordered it, it's fine ~~unless congress removes him from office~~ as long as the SCOTUS decides it's an official act.

FTFY, they left the door open to future interpretations in their ruling.

Still a crazy, dangerous ruling.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It also wouldn't be during a rally.

[-] jumperalex@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Create some real chaos, make it look like Putin did it using one of his preferred methods.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago

homeboy is telling you what trump would do, fucking listen.

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[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 42 points 1 month ago

Democrats need a crazy congressman to come out and say this was a fake assassination attempt.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago

"Donald was allowed to have his center mass and head exposed by trained secret service agents in the most staged looking photo I've seen. He has a history in pro wrestling, hell Linda McMahon worked with him in his cabinet for years, so blood packs are no mystery, and are you going to tell me that a rooftop a mere 400 feet away from him was unmonitored? This is all faker than his tan."

[-] dmtalon@infosec.pub 20 points 1 month ago

Or... And hear me out... Let's not encourage more crazy. There is already enough out there.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago
[-] dmtalon@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago

Ya, dig the crazy hole deeper and everyone falls in.

[-] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

After yesterday, the sinkhole opened up and it's a race to the bottom now. There can be no winners

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago

There's no way out but through, let's get it over with.

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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

While there are stupid people on the left, they don't usually get into office the way they do on the right.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

And so fucking what. What are they gonna do. Are they gonna outlaw the exact thing that SCOTUS decided because it suddenly occurred to them that a sword cuts both ways? No. They just going to make a lot of fucking noise to rile up their own base. We all know where this is going and it's nowhere good. And the worst part - the worst part? America was able to bail Europe out of the debacle when it happened last time. There's nobody to bail us out of this cluster fuck.

[-] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Ummmm you might care to remember that the USSR also "bailed out" Europe.

You know....in the sense that you were dragged into a war you had no intention of joining, by a foe that had already gone 11 rounds with the UK and Russia.

The UK spent an entire empire "bailing out" europe. Twice. But we don't hark on about it.

But you're right about one thing - no one is coming to bail you out. You've made it abundantly clear you will only act unilaterally. Europe will stay in its lane, quietly hope that Trump has a stroke, but ready to stand on its own for a 3rd time.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago

They will blame anyone but themselves. They are the ones that have made it so every idiot can own a gun. This is KARMA.

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[-] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Even if he did it'd be an official act and you can't do shit, bitch

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If it was Biden, he'd send the Navy Seals. Navy Seals wouldn’t have missed.

Also, SCOTUS says that's 100% legal.

[-] Emmy@lemmy.nz 19 points 1 month ago

To biden: Just do it. They were always going to accuse you. They'll charge you when you lose. Just actually do it.

[-] tamal3@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

202-225-4101

Mailbox is currently full, but I'd say give this guy's office a call tomorrow.

[-] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Even if he did, SCOTUS just ruled he would be immune to prosecution.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

They ruled in a way that didn't really define what an official act was, so if I'm not mistaken, any act could still be up to SCOTUS to ultimately determine if charges were brought and prosecuted.

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Even if he did doesn't he have Presidential immunity now? 💀

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago
[-] Klear@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Moisturise me!

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

If Biden had sent them they wouldn't have missed. Woulda Coulda Shoulda

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
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[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

There it is folks.

[-] thestar@mastodon.social 6 points 1 month ago

Mike Collins is a conspiracy theorist in congress, what a ridiculous person.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

If only he were the only one.

Three members of congress have been on Ancient Aliens.

https://lemmy.world/post/17523333

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