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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
  1. Trump’s head is fully exposed to hundreds of people with elevation advantage (lol at that one agent shielding Trump’s fat head with his hand)
  2. Secret service detail is entirely focused on moving the large son, they seem to have complete tunnel vision. Someone could’ve jumped out the stand and get a few stabs in even if they were immediately shot
  3. The only SWAT guy is also point man and he seems to be doing cursory checks in his path (like there’s no way he can spot a threat in the crowds on each side of him).
  4. The camera pans to the exit, and there’s still like 50 attendees around the area, a couple of local cops without weapons drawn just standing around like they’re waiting for a burger, and Trump’s detail is all focused on pushing his ass into the limo without really monitoring the surroundings

I know they have snipers at the event, but how many? Surely not enough to monitor the entire crowd of thousands while a dozen or so people are entirely focused on a narrow path. I know bodyguards’ are primarily task with moving the VIP to safety, but why is no one telling anyone to move back or have more people guarding the path? In this video and others, you can see random photographers running right up to the security’s pathway to snap photos. Surely this is a potential threat during an assassination attempt

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[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 3 months ago

Also they are not even secret. Their existence is publicly known.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago

Idk if the ss is competent or not these days, but there's vastly more to what they do than when they're standing around the president on the day of. Lots of intel and counter-intel work. People don't try to shoot the potus that often, and the ones who do tend to rant about it a lot.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

The nature of things have changed too, the kid did aerial recon with his own personal drone before going to the event. He had improvised explosives. He could have done a lot of things with enough ingenuity.

[-] someone@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Just wait until someone tries an assassination directly via explosive-armed commercial drone. I think it's only a matter of "when", not "if".

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Umm, didn't Maduro did experience one attempt...?

[-] RedDawn@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Yes, although I think that was CIA backed and not just some random individual, but it just as easily could have been.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Well that’s true. I imagine their recon and support teams are hard at work, except the snipers who watched Crooks for like 20 minutes, but the protection job seems very sloppy. Like not even a kevlar blanket lol. Just using your hand.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Yeah I was surprised they didn't have any bulletproof shields or blankets. That was weird. Those tools exist now, where were they?

[-] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

I'd been thinking about this for a while before this even happened, and this just confirmed it. I don't think the secret service is necessarily that effective, it's just that nobody is even attempting in the first place. It would be one thing if lower politicians (senators, governors, etc) were getting shot up frequently but the president was uniquely safe, but that really isn't the case. Here we saw an actual assassination attempt on a former president, and the only thing that saved his life was the fact that the shooter happened to have the worst aim in all of rural America.

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

Just bc rednecks like guns doesnt mean theyre good at using them, theres a lot of wreckless idiots who think hitting bird shot on a target 10meters away makes them a badass

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

I love that Americans, collectively, regardless of our politics, are very mad at that kid for having bad aim.

I want to make some meme about Oswald being a commie and fucking nailing Kennedy while the Cross kid can't hit fucking Trump but I can't bring it together in my head.

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

it'd have to be very subdued to work

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

I want to make some meme about Oswald being a commie

I like making it a marine joke to jab at the jarheads and their superiority complex of "being better riflemen than the army"

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

"The only marine who could hit a target was a communist"

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

A trot or had strong trot leanings*

[-] D61@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

Nothing really elite about them, no.

They've got a fuckton of resources and authority though. Mostly their job is investigating people making threatening remarks and prepping locations wherever the president is going to be for their visit.

But once there's a crowd, its kinda up to the President to follow whatever the plan is after something goes down.

Also, former presidents get a small Secret Service detail but probably not the same level of resources as the actual sitting president. So there's gotta a more of a "security theater" thing going on.

[-] egg1918@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

So there's gotta a more of a "security theater" thing going on.

Ah so it's the TSA of the police then

[-] D61@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Once the crowds are in front of the President/former President, kinda.

[-] Vampire@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

lol at that one agent shielding Trump’s fat head with his hand

Couldn't they have shields? If their job is to stop bullets, I'd think they could carry modern shields.

idk, I'm not Valerie Irons, just makes sense to me

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago

When the nationalist Japanese ex-PM got got recently his bodyguards had bulletproof briefcases. Maybe these guys could have something like that too.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

They apparently do not lol. Trump keeps sticking his neck out of the SS stack and they just let him

[-] Vampire@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

'ballistic shield' apparently is the word

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

They should have had shields. Various bulletproof and bomb resistant blankets and shields exist and could have been staged ready for use, but they were not.

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

If there's one thing to be learned through all this, it's that it's remarkably easy to assassinate a politician.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

Paper Tigers and all that.

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

its a empire of Lies , not ability...

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

One of the SS ladies pick up Trunp’s hat and held on to it during the entire escort lmao

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago
[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

My assumption is that they're taught to get everything along with him.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

Wide angle of the car. Everyone seems to assume that there’s no threat inside the crowd

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago
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[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

I find this kind of speculation useless personally

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That’s unfortunate because people were definitely trying to be useful to you

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Well, its just that there are people who probably are better and more competent in the secret service and unless you have lots of real world application I imagine theres only so good you can be at that kind of job.

Just because you are in the army doesnt mean your stone cold tactical killer badass, on the contrary actually.

That being said, there are probably much more competent and more frightening people in the secret service and this redneck, maga country shithole probably got a bunch of news guys for what would have normally been a low stakes situation.

Also the speculation lends itself to conspiracy when I just don't see it.

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