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[-] hahattpro@lemmy.world 161 points 4 months ago

Let's two of them die together

[-] tal@lemmy.today 64 points 4 months ago

Blocking other search engines will hurt Reddit, all else held equal. But not by that much. Google is seriously dominant in the search engine market.

kagis

Yeah.

https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share

According to this, Google has 91.06% of the search engine market. So for Reddit, they're talking about cutting themselves off from a little under 9% of people searching out there. Which...I mean, it isn't insignificant, but it isn't likely gonna hurt them all that badly.

[-] eronth@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

It's also worth noting that the 9% they cut off was probably the group more inclined to already be using alternatives to Reddit anyways.

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 161 points 4 months ago

Hi, I'm new here. Because of the bullshit with Reddit. Greetings fellow Lemmy people.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago
[-] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 66 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
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[-] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago

Welcome aboard. It's not much, but she's got it where it counts.

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[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 88 points 4 months ago

I've posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating:

Just use ddg bangs if you use Duckduckgo and you can search reddit directly.

!reddit search term

or:

!r search term

It still picks up latest posts related to reddit, it just searches reddit directly instead of searching Bing's results. It's that simple.

You can even use a redirect extension like Libredirect in conjunction with this Duckduckgo feature to redirect your search to a privacy respecting frontend like redlib.

[-] Kyouki@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

DDG is awesome, been using it for years.

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[-] squidspinachfootball@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

I think !reddit just sends you directly to reddit and uses reddit's search engine, which has been infamously bad. Has that changed? It doesn't seem to be quite the same as appending "reddit" to queries to search for reddit posts, but using better search engines.

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[-] urquell@lemm.ee 64 points 4 months ago

FUCK u/spez

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Reddit responded: "Only google pays us". The content is not yours. You built this of naive user base that just wanted to share now these fuckers are taking it as their entitlement. As early an reddit user - fuck that place, I'm still angry.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 47 points 4 months ago

That just means the dumbasses will get even less traffic. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, Spazz.

[-] didnt1able@sh.itjust.works 42 points 4 months ago

I wish we had a government that functioned. This shot is 100% antitrust. How is it that this shit is let fly.

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[-] best_username_ever@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 months ago

Is there a downside? I’m confused.

[-] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 27 points 4 months ago

this is just going to cause indexers to ignore robots.txt

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

"We always obey the robots.txt"

  • A bunch of corporations that have no accountability and plenty of incentive to just ignore it and have all been caught training AI on off-limits data.
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[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago

I wish Lemmy were searchable better. The search function actually works decently well, but it's not on the same level of actual search engines, it doesn't seem to look for related/similar terms and also relevancy doesn't seem right.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

I do occasionally find Lemmy in web search results. The platform is not that big (or old), but as long as it sticks around then eventually searchability will improve.

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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Google just enshittifying even harder. Reddit results in Google searches are often old and anemic these days.

I used to want Reddit threads to show up in search results. Now I avoid them because they are so often a waste of time. More reason to use Duck Duck Go.

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[-] Wiz@midwest.social 23 points 4 months ago

Ah, so Google signed a contract with the company that trained their AI to ... (checks notes) ... suggest putting glue on pizza.

Sounds like a perfect match.

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[-] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago

IMO, another good reason to not use Google!

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Bing it is then. I hate Microsoft with the intensity of thousand suns but bing is now my jam as long as this lasts.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago
[-] SuperiorOne@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

DuckDuckGo also uses Bing under the hood.

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[-] buttfarts@lemy.lol 13 points 4 months ago

I've started a Kagi subscription for my new search engine. Basically $6 USD per month but because it's a user-pay model they have a really good privacy policy and don't sell/analyze your data.

It's currently better than Google (which I still use search in the maps for reviews)

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I work for a different sort of company that hosts some publicly available user generated content. And honestly the crawlers can be a serious engineering cost for us, and supporting them is simply not part of our product offering.

I can see how reddit users might have different expectations. But I just wanted to offer a perspective. (I'm not saying it's the right or best path.)

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[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago

Still seems to work on Kagi

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[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 14 points 4 months ago

Makes sense they've spent years curating other people's content and are now selling it..... Oh wait 😯.

[-] Binette@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

Oh well. Time to post more questions on lemmy

[-] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 12 points 4 months ago

With all the botting going on on Reddit, this whole Google AI deal makes me think of the recent paper that demonstrates that, as common sens would suggest, deep learning models collapse when successive generations are trained on the previous generations' output

[-] emb@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Just like Reddit's changes last year, seems like a clear and reasonaly expected consequence of the 'our text is so valuable because AI' idea.

The web will probably continue to become more gated and more fragmented as a result of that, plus trying to get more control to force ads.

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