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As the vice president introduced her new running mate at an energetic rally in Philadelphia, he quickly demonstrated his ability to deliver searing attacks against Donald Trump and JD Vance.

America’s introduction to Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota began with a half-hour of cheering for Vice President Kamala Harris and ended with some of the sharpest attacks Democrats have leveled against former President Donald J. Trump and his running mate, Senator JD Vance of Ohio.

Before a raucous crowd in Philadelphia, Ms. Harris and Mr. Walz presented the Minnesotan as a folksy former schoolteacher and football coach who had inspired his students, served in the military and improved his constituents’ lives.

But it was his ability to deliver searing yet accessible attacks against their Republican opponents that won Mr. Walz a place on the national ticket, and during his first rally, he did not miss his marks.

“Donald Trump sees the world a little differently than us,” he said. “First of all, he doesn’t know the first thing about service. He doesn’t have time for it because he’s too busy serving himself.”

Then came the dagger. “Violent crime was up under Donald Trump,” he said, before pausing for effect. “That’s not even counting the crimes he committed.”

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[-] snooggums@midwest.social 184 points 3 months ago

About time the Dems had some charismatic candidates who are willing to push back against the bullying of Republicans instead of taking the high road.

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 44 points 3 months ago

Thank God. Finally sounds like they believe in themselves which gives other people a reason to believe in them. Finally fighting.

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[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 months ago

I think a lot of things started to go wrong right after Hilary said "When they go low, we go high".

Back then they were labouring under the assumption that the Republican Party (and voters) actually had a sense of shame; that if you stick to the "political" fights rather than throwing some shade, you'll eventually come out on top.

Now they (finally) know better. You gotta throw some shade in with that policy, and if you can make the shade humorous, all the better. Because the only thing Trump cares about is being seen as 'strong', and that's why this whole 'weird' thing is working as well as it has.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 3 months ago

It was Michelle Obama who coined that, but you're right otherwise.

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[-] ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

Basically couldn't have come any later really. They're already coming out the gates scrabbling with just 3 months and change until voting starts.

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 3 months ago

Only having them campaign for a few months is refreshing. I'd love to see it happen more often.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Plus it minimized fascist election fuckery...it's not zero and we need people watching electors that think they can lie... Trying to subvert the will of the voters should be considered treason and treated as such legally.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

America is one of the only countries with such a long election cycle. Up here in Canada it's much shorter thankfully. Get it over with and let people get on with their lives.

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[-] niucllos@lemm.ee 51 points 3 months ago

Not that I ascribe this to strategy, but I wonder if this will work in their favor. The last minute change of jockey has been dominating the news since it happened, and pushing Trump's ridiculous things to the side. This ticket will have huge and new name recognition in voters' minds, and a lot less time to get mud to stick

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 months ago

I think it will definitely work in their favor, and I hope it kicks off a trend towards a shorter election season, but the corporate media will resist that.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 141 points 3 months ago

Wow, no wonder republicans are pissed off.

They have old man tiny hands and the couchfucker to try to counter these guys.

[-] finley@lemm.ee 46 points 3 months ago

Kamala + Walz? The GOP is screwed.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago

if normal people vote.

[-] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 3 months ago

Sigh. Normal people do vote. Republicans haven’t won a national popular in 20 years, and the fluke that won in 2004 only did so because of 9/11. He also won his first term by Supreme Court decision.

Showing up is not our problem. There is zero chance Kamala and Tim don’t absolutely trounce their opposition. The fascists know this, so they will try to subvert democracy instead of win within the system.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago
[-] logi@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's because the "Did Vote Too" vote is split by the two parties. Clearly we need one of them to drop out to defeat the real enemy.

Edit: although the real real enemy is FPTP and the EC which is the root of all this nonsense.

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 115 points 3 months ago

I can't stop thinking about how ingenius the couch joke is. The reference is obvious if you know the meme but oblique enough to maintain plausible deniability, but it doesn't matter because guess what, Republicans can't even complain about this without giving further airtime to the ridiculous meme itself. It is a serrated takedown.

[-] Enfors@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

I'm out of the loop on that one. Can you explain it to those of us who missed it, please?

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Internet is memeing about Vance being a couch fucker. He tried to refute it by saying he never had sex with a couch to completion, which obviously was a self own.

Walz said yesterday that he's happy to debate Vance, if Vance can get his ass off the couch.

[-] Argurotoxus@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

Just so you're aware that refutation was also spoofed.

Whole situation remains funny af though. And Walz is adept at twisting the knife.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Man, it's tough to tell what is real these days.

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[-] Enfors@lemm.ee 26 points 3 months ago

he never had sex with a couch to completion

Uhmmm... what? Why would he say that? Was there actually some truth to the claim that he had sex with a couch, or what?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

None. He just did a really bad job refuting it. Honestly, it's such a goofy meme that most adults would just ignore it, but these are Republicans we're talking about. It's incredibly easy to distract them with frivolous stuff.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Even better, there was some website explaining and refuting it all, but then it was taken down lol.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Even better it was the bastion of objective Journalism the Associated Press (AP). They took it down because they can't prove he didn't fuck a couch.

Edit - I love this because it's the same as the old "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a girl in 1990?". He's never come out to say he didn't.

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[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Yeah, they couldn't prove that Vance never fucked a couch, just that he didn't say he did in a book. But no one was quoting the book anyways, not after the meme started.

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[-] scarabine@lemmynsfw.com 44 points 3 months ago

God damn that was a hell of an entrance.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

i wonder if he has a license to throw those haymakers.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

He does. It's a license to thrill.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 40 points 3 months ago

I was gonna say I wish she'd chosen someone younger since she herself is much younger than Trump or Biden and that's a decent selling point in the current state of affairs

And then I looked it up and he's only a year older than her. The passage of time really hasn't affected them equally.

[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago
[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 63 points 3 months ago

He was also a school teacher for 20 years, so that's aged him 10 years more, at least.

[-] triptrapper@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

He said something like, "You don't supervise the lunch room for 19 years and come out with a full head of hair."

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

This is hilarious and very similar to a joke my wife (a high-school teacher) made. It’s got to be a common takeaway for people who know.

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[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

Walz became the nation's Dad as he entered the national political stage. When I think of all the lions that came from that part of the country, he is definitely on the list.

[-] Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 months ago

Super stoked, and everything I am reading and seeing of him only makes me more excited.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

It's a shame he's a teetotaler now, he has the highest "I could have a beer with him" score of any candidate I've ever seen.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

He can just be the "I could have a root beer with him" candidate then.

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago

Yeah. Actually he seems like he'd be totally okay with you having a beer

[-] ech@lemm.ee 27 points 3 months ago

Learn to hang out with people without alcohol involved instead of treating their choice to not drink as a problem.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It was a reference to the type of appeal that the media made a big deal about George W. Bush having. Learn to let a joke go by without seizing the opportunity to talk down to someone.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

I'd have a nonalcoholic beer with him any time!

They actually make a lot of REALLY tasty ones now, which makes my life as a beer-loving ex-drinker a LOT easier when there's a football game on, for example 😁

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I'd have rated Al Franken higher but he's pretty much left politics for good at this point.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

He runs a weekly political podcast at least

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