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[-] Asetru@feddit.org 59 points 2 months ago

Not to be overly pedantic, but changing the order of things in the second part of the sentence is really throwing me off by suggesting that donuts are fermented and that there's a beer with fried dough as an ingredient somewhere.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago
[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Most donuts are fermented as well as fried.

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher 2 points 2 months ago
[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I was hoping that starting with "most" would prevent pedantism but lemmy never lets me down

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher 2 points 2 months ago

Pedantic is my middle name

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

These microbreweries have gotten out of control

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Sadly , I’ve only ever seen beer from friars, not fryers.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 28 points 2 months ago

Fermentation and a ton of other foods had to have just been stumbled upon. Like they just forgot about some food, it went bad, but then someone thought to still eat it and it didn't kill them while also tasting good.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Yup. Other mammals will just eat fruit that fell off the tree and fermented on the ground.

Wasted monkeys everywhere.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Imagine living in a time when you weren't sure if eating a moldy piece of fruit was going to make you experience euphoric hallucinations or violently ill. I'd probably believe in gods, too, while we all figured out the pattern.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Ergot is a hell of a gamble in bread too.

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Fermentation is just what happens when you accidentally leave stuff in a container that limits oxygen. It's easy to make alcohol my accident. Then there's also the fact than we don't know how well connected the world was before writing. We know farming developed independently from studies of soil in lakes and whatnot but recipes are much harder to pin down as something invented independently.

Not sure about the swords part but the Aztecs didn't any.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not sure about the swords part but the Aztecs didn’t any.

The macuahuitl: "Am I a joke to you?"

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Instead of a sword, the Aztecs invented the baseball bat with nails sticking out.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

Obsidian razor blades.

[-] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

You reminded me to check if dankprecolumbianmemes made it over to lemmy

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Nice one, I guess you can count it as a wooden sword with obsidian teeth. I somehow had a picture of a metal stick with an edge in my head and I knew Aztecs didn't have those. Thanks for linking it

[-] schema@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Eww, this smells nasty and toxic... let's drink/eat it" seems to be a common human trait.

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

It's actually a common living creature trait, it seems like.

https://a-z-animals.com/blog/discover-wild-animals-that-eat-fermented-foods/

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah and then there would he couple of dudes like "Don't worry guys, we'll take one for the team and eat the spoiled fruit again" and go on a major bender without the prude non-spoiled fruit eaters

[-] sulgoth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

More like "my honey went off but I really need those calories... Huh, this isn't... Completely awful."

[-] spongebue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Am I the only one who gets a little annoyed when every use of the word "and" is replaced by an ampersand?

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Not as annoying as when they switch back and forth

[-] kofe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

This reminded me the ridiculous character limit was the sole reason I originally refused to use Twitter

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

I'll allow it on character limited platforms like SMS or Twitter.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

We’d have a lot less trolls if mutual stabbing was still a socially acceptable practice.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Outlawing the duel was the beginning of the end of civilized society. In 300 years it'll be marked down in history books as where the collapse truly began.

[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I read somewhere that eastern Asian populations lack a certain protein which helps metabolise alcohol, which was attributed to the fact that glass was not industrially developed and therefore distillation of alcohol wasn't widespread and the genome never had to adapt to alcohol. Probably more to it than that and it's outside my usual reading, but is there any truth to that? If so then not every culture invented moonshine.

[-] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

I think you're on the right track. A few things to note, the ancient Chinese produced various forms of alcohol and used it medicinally, ceremonially, and recreationally. Though I'm uncertain if there may have been factors at play that may have limited distribution and consumption to neighboring cultures.

I vaguely recall that in the case of Thailand, consumption was pretty low up until around the 1700s when they saw an influx of Chinese migrants. The prevalence of Buddhism was a big contributor to this as alcohol consumption is generally frowned upon.

[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Interesting stuff! Thanks!

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

AFAIK bread is pretty rare in east asian cultures tho. Like obviously nowadays they have it but traditionally I think they mostly had rice occupy the role of bread. idk tho

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

We use fermentation to make all kinds of stuff, not just bread and beer.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Everyone makes meat and/or veggies inside a pocket of dough

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They didn't all invent that though they just shared the ideas with each other. Unless it's happening on other planets to other species too. Which let's be honest, is probably happening.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders did none of these things, though they did find great ways to stab each other without swords.

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