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[-] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

How though? What policy do they think would sway a person voting far-right currently?

[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

American here but, from what I understand of Pan-European politics generally, it's more of an attempt to unify everyone else and not necessarily to draw away far-right voters.

[-] Quik@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

On a European level they interpret that as fixing the EU, e.g. giving the parliament meaningful power, creating a pan-European army etc.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

are they socialist? if they arent then good luck winning people back with a fundamental misunderstanding of whats wrong.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They were in favour of UBI here, apart from that no afaik. They are also in favour of establishing a lobbyist registry for more transperency in national politics, which I quite liked.

[-] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Wikipedia says center/center-left. But I've met a Volt member, and they were very neo-liberal.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

"center" usually comes to mean "right" these days yeah

[-] CanadaPlus 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, most people aren't socialists. In Europe there's usually a hard left option already, and it gets fairly few votes.

[-] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Voting for Europe‘s Volt party is like voting for the marketing department of your favorite company. They are not socialist by any means, and I don’t mean seize the means of productions style. I mean that they’re not even leftist, they are just pro-European because of the economy and profits for shareholders. Plus, the German branch is also Zionist. All in all not really an option.

If you want pro-European and something that counters the Nazi movements in Europe, Mera25 is a much better choice.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago

They're left-liberal which yes isn't socialist by a long shot, OTOH it's well within the overton window, thus actually able to be an electoral success. It's also a position which is completely underserved because neolibs captured everything even close to centre.

Oh, for all the yanks out there: Left-liberal is when UBI (because no proper employment market without uncomplicated social net) and business politics for SMEs instead of multinationals and plenty of antitrust with plenty of teeth. Petite bourgeois with at least a form of class consciousness. And gay marriage of course.

Are you, by any chance, letting the perfect be the enemy of the not completely evil?

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[-] Lemmchen@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

Plus, the German branch is also Zionist.

Source?

[-] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Go ask Volt Germany if they think there’s a genocide happening. Go check their statements published on this conflict. I can tell you because I asked them a couple months and the answer was the same that every other mainstream German politician would give you. Volt politicians in Germany frequently show up on pro-Israel protests.

Oh and there’s also this here just as an example: https://www.instagram.com/p/C3GQ8arsQzE If you think that’s a one time thing go check their page. Check their statements. Check what they condemn, who they empathize with and who they don’t mention.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

They're not perfect, so we should allow the far-right to win to spite the non-perfection.

Glad Australia isn't part of NATO right now.

[-] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Because having another party emerging that acts and talks exactly like all other centrist established party will surely fix it.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

Pirate party >>>>>>

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