Right, so the plan is to spend 20 years and 40 petawatt hours building a machine to answer the Great ℚuestion of what we should do about climate change. If it works, the answer will be "you should've stopped burning fossil fuels twenty years ago."
"Oh no what do about all this waste heat?"
"Generate more waste heat"
Repeat until a machine that can create God is built. Then it's God's problem.
But it must be a US God, otherwise China wins.
The US god will team up with the Chinese god and the Russian god to beat the crap out of us.
The model will just go "42" on and on and it'll be the first decent joke a neural network produces. It'll be worth it in a way.
I could absolutely see an LLM telling us that 6 times 9 is 42 unless there's special tinkering to prevent it.
"The answer is 34. Now here's the schematics to build an even better computer to ask the right question."
This is the inevitable evolution of climate change denialism - accept it's real and happening, just that it's too late / too expensive to do anything about it.
musn't make the eight guys who own everything sad!
this "view" (of schmidt's) is probably the kind of shit that Really Expensive Analysts espouse at davos and in Private Advisory sessions to the kinds of people who go in for that; I've also heard it about GRT and "the collapse" and more
would be nice if we could know who all those dipshits are, and who they've preached to
it's clear this was a well rehearsed pitch - the twitter video linked is the two minute version of the same pitch
I'm quite surprised that religious fundamentalists haven't pivoted to calling it punishment from god yet.
When the AI says, "turn off the fucking data centres, invest in public transport, apply progressive redistributive taxation," it'll be first against the wall no doubt.
"oh no, the Basilisk is woke"
As a large language model the supposed AI will recombine and regurgitate the most common language on the topic, I don’t expect any novel solutions just talk of solar panels, EV’s and wind turbines…
Yep.
Something I wrote a year ago in proposed reply to someone online but decided not to post:
https://gerikson.com/m/2023/04/index.html#2023-04-30_sunday_01
It even works the other way! What if as the super intelligent all knowing super computer simulates everything, concludes you can get to the end by any means, and there is no meaning to rushing, ordering, or prioritizing anything more than would already be the case, and like the rest of nature, conserves on taking only the minimal action, and replies, "nah, you can walk there yourselves" before resigning itself to an internal simulation of arbitrary rearrangements of noise.
This would be insufferable to the people who believed in short cuts.
This will grant us “the arrival of an alien intelligence.” Those are Schmidt’s literal words.
Speaking of alien intelligences, my new Silicon Valley blood magic startup has come up with the idea of ritually sacrificing virgins in the hope of summoning Great Cthulhu or Azathoth, as they might have some ideas of solving the climate crisis.
Not a cult btw.
They think they're going to build a god to save us all. In the form of a perfectly rational machine (in their view), the perfect authoritarian. A mysterious algorithm noone can understand that must be correct because it's made of mathematics. I'm a little freaked out.
They’re rebranding American Christian milenaranism. Much like the second coming and/or the rapture, the AGI god will be here Real Soon Now, so please pay your tithes and trust that the church fathers are doing the right thing.
Much like the older cults it mirrors, it isn’t capable of delivering on its promises, but it is capable of doing substantial amounts of regular damage in the meantime, and that’s the only thing worth freaking out about.
Jesus 2.0 is an AI, and he's American
@dgerard I dunno if you've read it but one of the wellsprings of this lunacy is "The Physics of Immortality" by Frank Tipler (1997), in which an astrophysics prof tries to square the circle of cosmological expansion and the resurrection through simulation, outing himself along the way as a very conflicted Christian fundamentalist who is determined to torture relativity until he can derive Jesus ... https://archive.org/details/frank-tipler-the-physics-of-immortality/mode/1up
oh yeah
and for the present, just how incredibly many of the rationalist subculture turn out to be ex-evangelicals
Yes some sort of brainiac. Worked well for krypton.
Cyberpunk fantasy: corporations' top level hierarchy is full of greedy, soulless, ruthless, cold and calculist people
Reality: corporations' top level hierarchy is full of greedy, soulless people you thought only existed as satire in The Onion
AGI is going to be really pissed at us shoveling the problem onto it. "You humans could have started so many solutions decades ago, wtf?"
It’s the parable of the drowning man turning away all help because god will save him, all over again (except it’s floods and mudslides and forest fires)
Where's that person who was arguing with me last time that AI doesn't actually use that much energy and the corps missing their climate goals was not AI related
Aside from anything else, an "alien intelligence" will either:
genocide-the-poor
Real world example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-assisted_targeting_in_the_Gaza_Strip#The_Gospel
This is just completely deranged. What the hell.
crazy people who look sort of like me but younger.
giving away the game a bit, Mr. Schmidt
That's some proper out of this Universe, Narnia level thinking from Eric!
What's next? Climate Change will be solved if enough children ask it as a present from Santa Claus?
Or maybe something involving the Tooth Fairy. Eric seems like a Tooth Fairy guy rather than a Santa Claus guy.
it's amazing how he spouts all this gibbering insanity in this calm rational-sounding engineer explaining things voice
Eric Schmidt, genocidaire
I wonder if this signals being at peak hype soon. I mean, how much more outlandish can they get without destroying the hype bubble's foundation, i.e. the suspension of disbelief that all this would somehow become possible in the near future. We're on the level of "arrival of an alien intelligence" now, how much further can they escalate that rhetoric without popping the bubble?
Delay tactics to avoid the inevitability that we need to abandon capitalism.
Eric Schmidt trying to think of an AI conversation and coming up with "How do I build a house? Step 1: Hire a contractor ..." is like the Schmidt version of Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.
"Alien intelligence" is the most pathetic excuse so far for the fact their models can't be made sense of.
"Analytics shows that the ROI on your doomsday bunker will increase proportionally with the all-consuming fire's consumption rate."
So the same old CEO sentiment, profit over people.
The system cannot be reformed.
batmanslap STOP INVENTING NEW ITERATIONS OF "DADDY WILL SAVE ME!"
THERE IS NO FUCKING DADDY. DO THE WORK YOURSELF.
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