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[-] bekopharm@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago

The situation is really bad for consumers. Even with a Pi-Hole and a dumb TV and something like a Fire TV stick (they tend to send lots of telemetry too and apps like Toggo will nag you to oblivion to consent to data mining - if an app asks at all that is).

I'm slowly building up a Jellyfin library and yeah I jumped the hoops to find a non-smart TV. Wrote about it at https://beko.famkos.net/2022/11/27/on-non-smart-tvs/ and settled with a https://www.homex.eu/u55nt1000.html that ticked all my boxes:

☑ ~~cheap~~ affordable ☑ 4k (UHD) ☑ ~~dumb~~ non-Smart ☑ HDMI ☑ 55″

No idea about it's tuner though[1] alas it's not really any longer available in any market space today and I hope it will not die on us any time soon or the quest to find a new one starts again 🤓

[1] We've a decent external receiver that does all the work and HDMI juggling but even that thing is on the WiFi for software updates and in-house streaming but from what I can tell it behaves at least, which is probably just because it's old by now.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago

One way to get Congress to act on this would be to remind them of how Robert Bork's video rental history got released. They very quickly realized that they all had the same sleazy movies on their rental list and passed a law making it illegal to share them.

Call your Congressmen and tell them that their smart TV is sending screenshots of whatever they're watching back to home base, including stuff that's not streamed, and there might be swift action.

Better yet, hack Samsung and leak it to the press. That'll definitely light a fire under them.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago

I blocked my two TVs from phoning home via my pihole. They are the two noisiest devices on my network, by leaps and bounds.

On a day of heavy usage, my phone and desktop may get ~2000 blocked requests combined. That’s high, but not unheard of. It just means I did a lot of browsing, with a lot of blocked ad requests. My TVs average somewhere around 7500 blocked requests per day, on days that I haven’t even turned them on. That’s an attempt to phone home every ~12 seconds. And it is much worse on days that I actually use them.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To be clear though, that's largely because it is just repeating the same request over and over as it times out and retries. They're a lot less noisy when they actually connect successfully, though it is still undesirable for them to do so.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Is it encrypted?

I got a 42" 4k computer monitor instead

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How many times the cost of a comparably-sized Trojan TV did that run you?

1.2x

I also use it as a computer monitor though.

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[-] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

While they are at it take a look at car manufacturers too.

[-] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 119 points 2 days ago

If only our fucking government would do something about this and actually regulate these evil bastards.

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

First you'd need to ban money from politics and change the voting system to better represent the people living there instead of wealthy elites, but that would just be the start.

Whenever wealthy elites have even a tiny bit of power (as they do in any capitalist system, including social democracies like what the Nordic countries have), they will seize as much control as possible. We saw this happen many times.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nico Semsrott (Kabarettist and member of the EU parliament. Yes, both) proposed in jest sponsoring placement on the jackets of the political members that got donations by companies.
The jackets should then look like the race overalls from Formula 1 or (not US) football players.

And I am fully supporting this.

Edit:
Like this:

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[-] Nima@leminal.space 214 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

my TV incurred my wrath by having the gall to show me a banner ad while I was in the middle of a game.

so I promptly cut its balls off. (disabled the internet entirely). now it is a dumb TV. and it behaves like a TV. and not an ad machine.

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I’m more than happy to buy a TV that uses post-purchase monetization, because I am never going to connect that fucker to the internet. It’s a display. I shall use it as a display. I do not care that it can replace my streaming box. I fully control my streaming box, and I will use that.

If I catch it doing any sketchy shit like trying to use unsecured/Comcast/etc WiFi to phone home, it’ll be time to pull out the screwdriver, though.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago

What happens when it no longer needs your WiFi and uses something like LoRa to phone home with your data and location? It may not know who you are exactly but it'll have a good guess.

I bought a commercial digital signage TV. No Roku/Chromecast/whatever, but the damn thing STILL has Ethernet and Wi-Fi and nagged me about setting it up on the internet. I'm only buying computer monitors from here on out.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Even monitors are beginning to become "smart" now...

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago

can we just ban online features from tvs, cars, printers, light bulbs etc.

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[-] b3an@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

Why do we continue to be ok with this? Where is the outrage and call for change?

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

the overwhelming bulk of humanity cant be fucked to care about shit like this.. until it personally affects them.

Then they will wail like banshees about the great injustice of it all, and how could anyone let it happen to them.

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[-] secretfoxtail@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 days ago

They called me crazy.

[-] rustydomino@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago

pi-hole ftw. the vast majority of my pi-hole's DNS drops are from various Roku and Roku-like devices. Also, put all your IoT stuff onto a guest network, or if your gear supports it, on its own VLAN.

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[-] Mobiledecay@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

So this is why my TV walked into the bathroom while I was dropping a deuce. 🤔

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 37 points 2 days ago

For example, Amazon Web Services and ad-tech company TripleLift are working with proprietary models and machine learning for dynamic product placement in streamed TV shows. The report, citing a 2021 AWS case study, says that "new scenes featuring product exposure can be inserted in real-time 'without interrupting the viewing experience.'"

Peacock is also working with TripleLift to develop "In-Scene" Peacock ads that owner NBCUniversal says it's currently testing:

When a user plays episodic content, your brand’s product or message is dynamically placed in the frame of targeted scenes, creating a non-interruptive ad experience that aligns the programming with your campaign theme/goals.

This could be hilarious when your omegaverse softcore porn drama gets plastered with prune juice, old people pill adverts, and trump propaganda on everyone's shirts, tattoos, jock straps, voice lines and whatever else the AI can scrounge up. "It totally fits with the narrative!"

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[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago

Wait until they hear about cell phones.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 72 points 2 days ago

And cars, and smart thermostats and smart cameras and smart fridges and routers and literally every fucking thing in your house that is connected to the fucking internet. Every single thing in our homes is a data miner.

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[-] Lightrider@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago
[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Ahh yes, unlike all those non-capitalist modern nations with their complete lack of widespread insidious surveillance.

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