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How insecure can you be? Everyone was ordering beers but I didn't feel like drinken, so I ordered tea. I guess my masculinity is in shambles right now.

Guys, drink whatever you want.

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[-] go_on_home@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 10 months ago

Real men forge their own path, never caring what those around them think.

“Ok, one mint tea please”

No not like that

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For real. I'm 6'2 and work out 4 times a week. Even then some guys think you're not men enough if you don't tick all their silly boxes.ust be a miserable life.

Edit: not that I think those measurements are manly either. The only qualification for being manly is identifying as one.

[-] go_on_home@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Stuff like what you’ve posted about others expectations and their arbitrary boxes really exemplifies how people use gender roles to seek some sort of self validation. It’s funny how if you ask someone who cares deeply about their male identity what being a “man” is, it always conveniently aligns exactly with themselves, no need for self adjustment

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Real ~~men~~ people forge their own path, never caring what those around them think.

“Ok, one mint tea please”

No not like that

FTFY

[-] go_on_home@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 months ago

Sure, sorry if the tone wasn’t clear on my original post, it was made mocking people who think like that, people like the ones laughing at the tea in the first place. I personally have no interest in prescriptive gender or personhood definitions

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

probably could just make it clearer like this:

Reactionary: Real men forge their own path, never caring what those around them think.

Me: Ok, one mint tea please

Reactionary:: No not like that

[-] calavera@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

I think you broke it rather than fixed it

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[-] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 10 months ago

Just do what xi Jinping did at the Two Sessions, and order a second cup.

According to Highly Credible Western Analysts™, that's a power move.

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 10 months ago

That is the look of a man who doesn't give a god damn fuck what any westerner thinks of him and is also about to enjoy a second cup of tea, respect

[-] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

he's earned it

[-] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago

He's the real top Xi, that's for sure

[-] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago

Westerners: "Xi is making a bold power move by ordering a second cup of tea."

Xi: "This is good tea. I should get another cup."

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago

Me sitting at home with five mugs of tea, constantly making them one after another, am I also pulling a power move?

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Depends if you have on a cool name tag like that

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 10 months ago

This has always been the weirdest part of this kind of toxic masculinity. Being "tough enough" to not just go along with the crowd makes you a wimpy soyboy? Real men blindly do what everyone else is doing I guess.

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 10 months ago

one big glass of soy milk, please

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

You struck me as more of an oat milk person. Gotta drink your grains.

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I enjoy many kinds of vegetation

[-] wesker 24 points 10 months ago

If you ever just want to skip a potential interaction, tell them you're the designated driver. You also might get your nonalcoholic beverage of choice on the house.

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago

"ah where's the rest of your group?"

[-] wesker 24 points 10 months ago

You can also simply say, "I have to drive." Assuming you drove yourself. I rarely drink, so I use that one a lot as well.

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[-] hansl@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

“I’m driving your mom and might get lucky. “

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

I mostly just shrug it off. Laugh all you want, it's not hurting me.

[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

"Id like a rum and coke without the rum, thanks" - Me who is allergic to alcohol.

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

As a woman, you are more masculibe than every man in that bar.

You know what a real man does? He drinks what he damn well pleases

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago

it's literally the dorkiest shit ever lol, like what the fuck is the point of drinking "manly" alcoholic drinks like beer and then sneering at like a "girly" cocktail, like come on I only need to drink like 2 or 3 of these to actually have fun while you either have to sit there drinking forever or chug your dogshit beer...

[-] Oppo@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 10 months ago
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[-] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago

Listen, I like beer, sour beer, hoppy beer, Belgian style beer, but at this point in my life I can't drink any of it without feeling like shit afterwards. You'll catch me ordering a Sex On The Beach, or any other sweet drink instead. That's if I'm even in the mood to drink, which I'm usually not.

If you ask me it takes more balls to order a "girly" drink then it does to order a bud light.

[-] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 10 months ago

Make your own mint teas instead. Grow your own mint (it grows very easily and will overtake your garden if you don't pot it), add 1 part mint leaves 1 part green tea to a teapot, boiling water, steep 2-3 minutes, and you have Moroccan mint tea. Normally you should also drown it in sugar but I prefer my tea without any sugar.

It's weird what we consider to be "manly". Mint tea is a favourite in Morocco and the rest of North Africa and they had the Berber raiders and Hannibal.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Just watered my very own mint plant :)

Can't take it to a bar unfortunately. At least not to make tea.

[-] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

I was wrong on the proportions, from what I remember it's the usual amount of green tea (1 teaspoon per cup) and then just kinda fill the rest of the steeper with mint. I have a teapot with a bigger steeper to make 1l at a time, it's not an exact science lol. I also used to make it with just mint and it gives it more bite

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[-] Life2Space@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The idea of brewing your own tea (or any food) with ingredients that you've grown yourself is just really cool to me, for some reason.

[-] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

well the tea leaves might be a bit more difficult to get since tea bushes need a very specific climate to grow*

But personally having done it with mint, it's not cottagecore vibes in my case lol. I could get mint at the store and it would be most of the same (although I think I have Moroccan mint which is the best one imo and I can't always get it fresh at the store), it's just that growing it I always have leaves for my needs without needing a trip to the store, at least when it's in season lol

Think I'm gonna go make mint ice tea now though 🤔

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[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 10 months ago

I didn't know they served mint tea at bars.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 10 months ago

Really? I think every bar I know of here has tea.

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago

Hey we can't all be like Belgium alright ; ___ :

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago

I order whatever drink I want, too, including non alcoholic drinks like tea. Sometimes a hot chocolate. One thing that pisses me right off is having to wait for it. I'm patient. So I don't mind waiting for it. But when I'm left waiting because I've ordered a non-alcoholic not-Diet Coke … 😡. It happens all the time. People who order after me will take priority if they order an alcoholic drink. Sometimes I've seen the barkeep actively look for someone else to serve rather than make my drink when I ask for it. It arrives eventually.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Don’t worry and remember hot people drink tea.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

the fuck? mint tea is the preferred drink of millions of men living in north africa and the middle east.

[-] Idliketothinkimsmart@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago

"Free thinkers" when you don't get the diesel resin charcoal roasted flavored hard liquor

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Makes me think about a shampoo bottle I saw at my parents once. It was for men and it had a picture of an explosion on it. It was called ‘extreme shampoo’ and it smelled like ‘wood and fire’ or something like that. It had a nice smell which reminded me of the forest, but the bottle itself was just comical.

[-] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

That’s funny, because I go camping often and you shower to rid of the wood and fire smell

[-] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

I had the same, with ordering a tea at a bar. I just ignore this dumb society.

[-] sudojonz@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I've had a similar experience before in NL. One evening at a bar I asked for an espresso (the machine was still on and functional) and the two bar women kept trying to shame me into getting a beer instead. Never went back to that place

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