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[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 28 points 3 days ago

I'd say mastodon is a better choice, mostly so that you're not beholden to yet another profit-focused tech corporation. I'm sure Bluesky is fine right now, but once they have their userbase they will shift to monetization - and you may regret letting yourself become entrenched in the world they control. They're not doing it for your benefit.

That said, I've come to understand that a lot of people kind of like having their content feed controlled by others. When they only see what they ask for, they get bored. So I'm expecting Bluesky to always be bigger than Mastodon.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

It's all cyclical anyway. No social media company will reign forever. We've already seen a number of them rise and fall. It's kinda like how different civilizations gained and lost dominance throughout history.

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 164 points 5 days ago

we've been seeing these "twitter's in biiiiiiiiig trouble now!!" headlines for how many years now?

yet people refuse to just delete it

i can't wait for the day i can go a full 24 hours without twitter shit showing up on every feed

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I deleted Twitter as soon as Space Karen took over.

However, my friends and so many people I follow on other platforms still link their Twitter profiles. For some there needs to be something solid to make a real and consistent migration. I was overly hopeful that Threads (yes, another evil) would have buried Twitter.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 21 points 5 days ago

Threads stood as much chance as Google Plus had against Facebook.

Zuckerfucker using a somewhat similar strategy to artificially boost Threads membership (login with instagram once, you can't delete your threads account without also deleting the instagram one) speaks volumes.

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[-] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Go to your favorite content creators and ask them to create a profile on Bluesky. If you don't ask them, how are they supposed to know?

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

The problem with this at least in my circle of content creators is that they're all millennials or older(no offense to millennials I'm one myself) but because of that, they either have a I'm not putting more effort into make an additional social media platform or they take their handle on blue sky but then actively participate in the mainstream Services more, neglecting BSky. I've only ever really seen artists use that platform so the other forms of content creation hasn't followed

[-] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

I'm still on the fence about that...I think it'd make more sense for many to drop social media and opt for their own site with RSS feeds. A lot of social media for some is little more than a noisier RSS reader. Sometimes even literally with those with auto-playing videos. 😬

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

As a counterexample to this comment, if any of my creators switched over to an RSS feed I probably would stop getting updates from them because that's more hassle than when I can just go to one service and see everything in one place

[-] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

What you describe is basically the flipside of what happened to RSS folks, so I know what you mean. It sucks to stop getting updates the way you're used to, and more hassle making the transitions to whatever the different method is.

It's basically the reason Twitter/X still has anyone there, except they have higher switching costs compared to an open following format.

Honestly I take the compromise approach where I can, which is social media that still generates RSS, like Bluesky/Mastodon/etc. and use that to avoid making additional accounts.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

Yea I think that's a good compromise, I want creators to go on Bsky so its all in one place... (and I can escape the Political and ad succumbed hell that is X), RSS would be an interesting route but like, it would need a feed for every creator wouldn't it? unless the social media platform allows it built-in like BSky does

[-] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

RSS would be an interesting route but like, it would need a feed for every creator wouldn’t it? unless the social media platform allows it built-in like BSky does

If I understand ya right yeah, with BSky/Mastodon you pull the individual feeds for each account if you go that route (or maybe someone has an .opml file of several already grouped by topic to import). To me it's no worse than having to individually follow them on-platform, but I know I'm atypical in that respect

Once ya have'em it's all in one feed in your reader so not too different than the following feed

[-] ryder9@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Y'all are delulu/out of touch with normal people if you think they're gonna set up an RSS feed

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[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But how would the bots reply? That's what generates foot traffic, which is what brings ads, which is what is not enough to pay for the bills!

Perfect business model, I had a VC review it and got high marks

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago

bsky is currently the only social network with a woman of colour ceo, which is pretty awesome imo (i hate how people always try to incorrectly say jack dorsey created it when it erases jay's work)

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[-] markstos@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I love that a Twitter founder founded Bluesky and the logo went from the outline of a white bird on a blue background to the outline of a white butterfly on a similar shade of blue background.

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[-] John_CalebBradberton@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago

Taking a page out of Valves book.

Doing nothing and let the competition drive customers your way.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 37 points 4 days ago

Not really what Valve did. Valve kept doing cool things that benefit the customer, while the competition actively drove them away.

I don't follow social media. Is BlueSky feature rich and only getting better?

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 days ago

The biggest thing that valve did that kept them in everyone's good graces is that steam's core functionality hasn't had any major changes in years. Dare I say, more than a decade.

It's a platform where you buy games, download them, and play them.

In the early days you still had to deal with all the bullshit, including third party launcher installs and crap to get things going, and over time, valve simplified all of that, making it easier than ever to take advantage of the core function of steam: buying, downloading, and playing games.

Literally the only improvement I can absolutely, positively credit them for, is making that entire process, easier, simpler, and quicker, than ever.

Sure, you can chat to people, track achievements, comment on your profile, comment on your friends profiles, buy and sell cosmetics on the market thing, even voice chat and I think they have a way you can stream your game to friends.... Not sure on that last one.

It's like Facebook, FB marketplace, FB messenger, discord, Twitter... And a bunch of other services, all huddled together to make a bastard child with the entire PC video game industry.... That's steam.

But the core mechanic that was always the main reason why steam was great, remains the same.

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[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

I'm on Bluesky. I have seen a drama increase in followers in the last few days since Twitter let blocked people see content that were blocked from.

It's a big blow to Twitter that people are finding someplace, anyplace , else to go.

I had to decide if I was going to Mastodon or Bluesky. I picked Bluesky because after reading Mastodon's integration problems with itself I wanted nothing to do with it. It couldn't scale unless each instance played nice and in the years since it went live they had refused to do that and showed no signs of even moving in that direction.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have seen a drama increase in followers

If there's one thing a social media site loves, its a drama increase.

It’s a big blow to Twitter that people are finding someplace, anyplace , else to go.

Honestly, more than anything, it feels like an indictment of Threads. That was supposed to be the big party spot for creatives, journalists, and D-list celebrities following the burn out of Twitter. But modern Threads just feels like the worst kind of Hype-House crossbred with LinkedIn.

BlueSky feels a lot more like a vintage '00s social media site, which is all people really wanted. Hope it survives its own popularity better than Twitter did. But for now, life is good.

[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I'm leaving the drama typo. You made it too good to take away

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Mastodon is scaling fine though? I've been using it for years, and it's great, and still growing. User base is a bit tech focused, could be more general, but I think it'll get there eventually.

[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Are instances federated or rag-tag islands?

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Any instance that interacts with any other instance is federated. Which is the vast majority of instances with more than a handful of users.

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

islands can be good (for unpopular/generally hated content)

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[-] uis@lemm.ee 42 points 4 days ago

Bluesky is decentralized only in its name. And media storage.

[-] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Better than the burning garbage inferno that is xitter.

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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 56 points 5 days ago

Whelp, did mastodon got something out of this screwup?

[-] original_reader@lemm.ee 41 points 5 days ago

Mastodon struggles a bit to pick up pace.

Found this:

https://www.makeuseof.com/why-people-leaving-mastodon/

It explains some pain points.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago

Basically it’s “I can’t get ✨ engagement ✨ on Mastodon”

People want big amounts of likes and reposts you don’t get that on Mastodon, the system is too distributed for that.

Bluesky gives them the big numbers

[-] owlboy@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago

They want an algorithm.

As much as people mock it, or know it’s the source of why social media optimizes for outrage and other unhealthy behaviors, the algorithm is what they are missing on Mastodon.

As someone who always used third party Twitter apps, and never directly saw the algorithm in my timeline, mastodon feels like Twitter always did.

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[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 26 points 5 days ago

Damn we can’t get influencers? How will we live.

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[-] Microw@lemm.ee 19 points 4 days ago

Theoretically, yes. Practically, the way their model is set up, it costs a lot to host a federated server so no one is doing it.

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

I've been on Bluesky and Mastodon but I'm seeing people pretty happy with how less toxic it is on Bluesky.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Just wait until enough sane people have left Twitter; it'll then implode and the fascist Nazi shitheads will migrate.

They don't want an echo chamber- they want to be able to shout their slurs and right-wing bullshit at you while you can't respond. It's exactly why places like Voat and that shitty T_D knockoff crashed. Once the ratio of right-wingers to non-right-wingers on Twitter hits a critical amount, they'll start looking for other places to infest.

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[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 27 points 5 days ago

Glad to see people leaving X. I look forward to it’s end.

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