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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 53 minutes ago

But the question is, will American manufacturing make up for the costs? Or, will American manufacturing just raise their prices to match the tariffs and lump the profits into their executive bonuses. They deserve it after all for being smart enough to raise prices.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 21 minutes ago

I think we know

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 9 points 54 minutes ago

Everything he will do contributes to anger, division and the collapse of the United States.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 31 minutes ago

Fuck Walmart.

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 32 points 6 hours ago

There are two bright sides to this (and dark sides as well):

-This will decrease demand of Chinese goods in the U.S., hurting a country that is ... problematic to say the least. (Anyone remember the Uyghurs? The O.G. Gazens?) It probably won't shift demand back to the U.S. factories, but maybe it is time for another country to become the slave-labor-ish manufacturing capital of the world.

-When the prices skyrocket, along with food from all the missing immigrant farm hands, Trump will get blamed. I just hope this wasn't the plan all along and those "fake" inflation hikes back after covid weren't to cover for the real ones down the road.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 hour ago

Trump will get blamed

Ha, ha, ha, he will blame Biden, or immigrants, and his moron supporters will believe him just like they have when he lied the other thousands of times.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 31 minutes ago

Trump will get blamed

Oh honey...

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 48 points 6 hours ago

When the prices skyrocket, along with food from all the missing immigrant farm hands, Trump will get blamed.

i really hope you’re right, but i think that will most likely get blamed on biden “ruining the economy” in his last term, or something in that vein. a lot of trump voters get their news from fox news or directly from donald trump, and i can’t imagine either of those sources criticizing trumps economic policies.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

Funny that we both posted the same concern at the same time.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

i’m glad that we both realized that 17 minutes ago was the perfect time to post that comment

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 25 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

When the prices skyrocket, along with food from all the missing immigrant farm hands, Trump will get blamed.

In all likelihood, only a small percentage of his voters will actually blame him for the predictable consequences of his tariffs. The rest of them will believe Trump when he blames it on Biden's economic policies that were put in place before Trump's second term. Our egos have a funny way of making us do mental gymnastics to avoid having to accept the idea of oneself being wrong.

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 164 points 10 hours ago

No shit.

This is literally in the first paragraph of every economics textbook when they talk about tariffs.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 93 points 10 hours ago

Donald Trump didn't win the Presidency by reading textbooks.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 53 points 8 hours ago
[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 4 points 7 hours ago

How do you get by in life without reading? I mean, don’t you have to know what the symbols on clocks mean to tell time?

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

don’t you have to know what the symbols on clocks mean to tell time

not all types of clocks.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago

And you don't need a textbook to understand how the very basics of business work. You know, the thing people seem convinced he understands? A fucking toddler has more knowledge than Trump. The United States of America doesn't have two brain cells to rub together

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 13 points 8 hours ago

They heard lower taxes, and simply misunderstood that tariffs are another form of taxation.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

They heard whatever they wanted to hear, because that rambling shitgibbon said everything to everybody.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

He won it by taking bribes from billionaires, like a true politician

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[-] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 38 points 9 hours ago

Nobody who voted for Trump read that book homie.

[-] Zidane@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago

Nobody who voted for Trump read[s] ~~that book homie.~~

Fixed that for ya

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

No, the first page is how it introduces inefficiencies into a supply/demand equilibrium, resulting in a lower quantity supplied and at a higher price.

No one who every studies economics, even in passing, would even consider another country paying a tarrif for something you buy. The concept is just.... what?

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 55 points 9 hours ago

Pretty sure everyone was told this before the election.

Problem:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/11/12/trump-election-win-college-educated-voters/76109508007/

"Harris outperformed Biden’s 2020 numbers among white voters with college degrees. Meanwhile, exit polling from NBC News gave Republicans a 9-point gain with voters who never attended college."

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 hours ago

'I love the poorly educated', donald j trump, feb 2016.

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

A simple google search would have many credible sources giving the answer to what tarrifs are.

But to the magats, only fox news has the truth.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 30 points 9 hours ago

Thing is, basic economics is a high school subject, except:

"Sir, when am I going to have to know how tariffs work in the real world?"

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 18 points 8 hours ago

You had econ in HS? Mine had it but it was only an elective.

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 7 hours ago

I don't think mine even had it as an elective. We were too busy spending 2 years of history classes learning how nice the Pilgrims were to the natives. And this was in Massachusetts, which I believe ranks #1 in education in the US.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

#1 in education.

And also the only state in the country where every precinct voted for Harris.

Surely that must be a coincidence, right?

[-] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Basic economics was not a required class in my high school. Macro and Micro Economics were both electives.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

tariffs, trade wars, and their effects surely were covered, or at least touched on, in a history class or two.

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 72 points 9 hours ago

It's a certainty, not a fucking "likelihood'. That's how they work.

[-] wagesj45@fedia.io 41 points 9 hours ago

You mean there's no chance that Wal-Mart might choose to absorb the increased prices out of the goodness of their hearts? :o

[-] nickwitha_k 4 points 7 hours ago

Well, the far-right courts made that illegal for publicly-traded companies, so, no.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 47 points 9 hours ago

just like mexico paid for his 'wall'

[-] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 hours ago

Duuuh. Did they really think the company would just eat the additional costs? What a bunch of maroons.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago

They thought the exporting country/company would pay for it.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago

and without raising the price they sell it at. which is just many millions of sad examples of how 'effective' the republicants war on public education has been.

[-] suzune@ani.social 17 points 9 hours ago

The good thing about Trump is that other countries will try to get more independent from the US.

[-] Blackout@fedia.io 18 points 9 hours ago

I have a trick to get others to pay it for me:

trix

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 11 points 9 hours ago

I’m very glad I live in Canada.

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago

Over 51% of men are voting for Poilivre in the next election. That's across all age groups. We're where we usually are: 5-10 years behind something the US is doing.

[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 20 points 9 hours ago

I'm not sure, USA is way too close for comfort

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The USA screwing up trade never leaves Canada in a good spot. Our prices will go up too. And we're about to suffer the same effect of mass ignorance after the next federal election when the voters elect a populist bigot with no idea how to run a country. We're already suffering it in the provincial governments. Plus the bigots in Canada feel empowered to get loud and violent when the Americans are all doing it. I'm glad not to be living in the USA but we're not looking forward to fun times.

[-] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I've heard that y'all have your own far-right, MCGA bullshit to deal with. Do everything you can to stop it. Get involved with as many organizations as you can and get as many people involved as you can. "It'll never happen here" is complete and utter bullshit. Good luck, Northern brethren.

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