Imagine firing all competent employees
The stoner dudes high as balls 247 who don't give a shit and are not stressed a bit: :DDD
looks at companies forcing RTO 👀
Don't ever engage with culture sensing surveys honestly. The only place they weren't a trap (ironically) was the US Army where they did it on paper, punished people for putting their names on them, and walked right past your entire immediate chain of command to their bosses with the results. And the one time things were truly bad they literally brought in a Sociology expert to study our unit and figure out how things had gone bad, it resulted in all new leadership and team building exercises, in a war zone. (These results do not extend to other branches, I had one done by the Navy and it was corpo trap bullshit, got a lot of the Army guys there by surprise.)
I have always engaged with every one of them and have been negative quite often yet never anything bad came of it. Probably because we have employee rights where I live. So the actual problem is americas lacks of rights.
Or engage with them but expect the repercussions.
I'm very candid when this shit comes around my corp and am extremely nuanced in explaining the culture challenges.
The trick is to not explicitly call anyone out and highlight it's a systemic problem.
That's a very fine line though. and you're hoping they don't fire you just for being the bent nail.
Oh I agree but thing is it's principles for me. I spoke to a coworker recently about this in relation to a bad worker and if they should go to HR. My argument is I can't rely on other people to speak about the challenges so it's beholden on me to do that for those that may not want to take that risk.
It's only a job. I make damn good money but if I got let go because of my principles that's a good reason.
In our corp, our managers get the answers and results without the names of employees that gave the answers. Did not see anyone regretting being honest on the survey yet.
I am wondering more and more if it is the corp I work for that is unusual, if it is because it is in the EU, not US (even though corp is US based), or if just the people with worst experiences are the most keen to share them...
I have seen the exact same behavior here Canada with companies that are led by Indians. They treat it like a sweatshop. and this was an office.
There was quite a few in the UK as well, mostly in Leicester (large Indian immigrant population there). People being paid £3 an hour when it should have been about £8 at the time.
If you buy cheap clothes from the likes of BooHoo you should know that they're made in these places, and if you buy expensive clothes, then they're probably made in the exact same conditions with a nicer label sewn in the back and a better PR department to handwave away any wrongdoing.
Has this been reported? If this Is in Canada there are worker protection services....
yes it has been and these places still exist today. They especially love taking advantage of their own.
I work with a few Indian development teams, and "sweatshop" is an apt description. We work on software dependencies, as specified by them. After we deliver, they decide it's not what they wanted, change the specs and treat it as a "drop everything else" bug. It gives me no greater pleasure than telling them to relax, that we'll get to it in due time when we have the capacity. I like to think that a few of their managers already popped a vein.
I've been subject to the same treatment by a white person in Canada. Three out of my 5 colleagues were from India because apparently they were the only ones that could take it. They didn't fire me they made my life hell until I quit because of my mental health crisis. They made me sign bad performance reviews, the manager and her assistant shouted and screamed at me and made me work on holidays and kept accusing me of things that are not true until I quit. They did this to other people as well and no one had any grounds to sue them because they knew how to play the game. It's not just Indians that do this in Canada. Some Canadians do it too. This happen in the national capital region no less.
It's always those punks in HR
But they told me the survey was anonymous!
I love those.
I filled one out onetime and one of my teammates told us it's really anonymous.
So I bet him $100 dollars that I could prove it wasn't.
we filled them out and a couple days later I printed off his survey and taped it to his monitor.
he was pissed. I told him he could keep the $100 because the look on his face was worth it.
I had access to the drive where all the reports spit out. in the reports were the IPs of the submitters. I knew his IP and just grepped it. I'm sure leadership does the same thing.
My partner took an "anonymous" survey at work once.
When the results came out, it categorised the results. Site, m/f/o, role.
Turns out that there was only one female engineer at her site... So everybody knew she was annoyed about some specific things.
So fucked up
Wow, that's not bullshit in the slightest. Is it legal to do this there? I mean it's technically illegal here in America but employers can always come up with a bullshit excuse. Worse, if you live in San "at will" state, they can fire you with NO reason.
Last time I was in Bangalore there was an 80% completed, multi-story downtown building that 'didn't exist'.
It's not the laws that matter, it's who you know.
I don't know much about Indian laws and work culture, but many Indians I spoke to mentioned the work culture in their country is highly toxic. They prefer to work in American and Western companies instead of Indian-grown ones.
Watching Mike Okay videos, even things that aren't legal seem to be commonplace. The video where he visited a small jeans factory in a crawlspace above another shop that had ladder access, and where the off-dity employees slept on the floor underneath the workbenches where other workers were working, a small room with ceilings so low he had to stoop, that gave me the heebie jeebies
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