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The Pentagon doing the Larry David gif going back and forth between "we hate Muslims" and "but these specific Muslims hate China" while trying to figure out how long to fund this proxy group.

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[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 52 points 3 days ago

Syria's basically just a big convention for CIA bankrolled religious extremists at this point.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 3 days ago

https://xcancel.com/arslan_hidayat/status/1866600506778341847

This video kinda betrays their timeline a bit, they say they're in Syria because of CPC persecuting them, but the anti-extremism campaign in Xinjiang only started in 2014, and the Uyghur in that video says they've been operating in Syria since 2012.

2014 was also the year that terrorist attacks peaked in China

[-] Krem@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

2014 was the year of the Kunming station mass stabbing

[-] shath@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago
[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago
[-] shath@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 43 points 3 days ago

65-70 years? Quick bit of research suggests the region came under the control of imperial china in the 18th century? These people are always so, so illiterate.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

its kind of a touch and go situation, theres always been waxing and waning influence from various chinese groups over the area for thousands of years now. even before uighurs were even there. a lot of liberals like to imagine it as a modern settler colonial situation even though china has very strict internal migration laws

you can find a basic summary of this history here https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=-6Wu0Q7x5D0

here's some old ass mummies from the tarim basin too, theyre of the tocharian material culture which is now defunct (though it survived long enough to have a written language! its very interesting, its indo european but is its own branch), it moved westward at one point and mostly deserted the tarim basin and as far as we know it was the first organized material culture of the basin in 2k BCE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies

the more or less 'modern' borders of china were defined by the qing empire during the 1600s-1700s but there were chinese groups there with centralized power as early as 100 BCE, though arguably much earlier than that in terms of migrations and soft influence

[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago
[-] kristina@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

unfun fact: there are weird 'aryan' neonazis in china that say theyre tocharians because the tocharians were likely ancient north eurasians that later migrated to europe and were 'white'. generally most research sides with the idea that the tocharians largely vacated the area and didnt intermix much with the current existing population. so yeah... super weird

[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago
[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

But that's when the see see pee (authoritarian, bad) took over!

[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

of course, how could I forget

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 3 days ago

I hope China is prepared for another wave of Islamic extremists funded by the CIA. The US's stooges only need to get lucky once, but the countries they seek to destroy need to get lucky every time.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 3 days ago

Has me wondering whether there were cia involved in some of the european attacks that occurred. They had a tangible effect in pushing europe right. Charlie Hebdo among others.

[-] Voidance@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago

It’s long been rumoured that Isis was a creation of western intelligence.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago

There's no rumors about it. The only quibbles are over to what degree the west provided specific rebel groups weapons and funds.

As I understand it, a few competing factions of the American "intelligence" community have been providing their own competing factions with support.

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

There's a DIA brief that was leaked about running guns from Libya to Syria saying "you'll create ISIS"

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

Well Afghanistan wouldn't be used as a route this time, But imagine Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, or Uzbekistan might.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago

Not too strange. Foreign jihadis, mostly uyghurs and turkmens, were one of the biggest forces of the islamist rebels in Syria. Now that they want, or course they're gonna gloat and start painting targets elsewhere.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Translation: they're going to attack Iraq and Lebanon

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago

Yanks detected. hitler-detector

[-] D61@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago
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