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Check all Criminals to Continue (vegantheoryclub.org)

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[-] roux@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago

I still think it's fucking hilarious that they tried to make him look like National Threat No. 1 but ended up creating one of the most badass photos of 2024 instead.

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[-] Alice@beehaw.org 28 points 2 weeks ago

I get the point but "criminal" isn't a moral label. Cops are monsters even if they don't break the law. Similarly, if Luigi did it, that means he committed a crime but it still doesn't make him the villain.

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[-] M68040@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

The world needs more Robin Hoods and Ishikawa Goemon. Given increasing inequity and corruption without any real hope at a systemic level, Material conditions are right for the return of the outlaw hero, I think.

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[-] David_Eight@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

New York City Mayor Eric Adams’ federal corruption trial will begin next April.

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[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -21 points 2 weeks ago

You can agree with the justice of what he did, but Luigi did, in fact, commit 1st degree murder. That's a crime.

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[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 44 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, you are from the future when his trial occurred and he was found guilty?

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[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -24 points 2 weeks ago

I am not a court. I don't have to have a trial to believe in somebody's guilt. According to the evidence I have seen it appears he shot a man to death.

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[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago

They are, by law, innocent until proven guilty. The “evidence” you have seen is certainly not all the evidence, and your beliefs have been swayed before defense can make an argument.

I sure as hell hope you never serve on a jury.

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[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 week ago

I am not representing the law. I am representing my own opinion. I am not a judge or a jury member.

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[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 18 points 2 weeks ago

You don't know anything other than what lying American police told you and lying American media reported they said. You have absolutely no evidence or have any knowledge of his guilt or innocence. It appears that way to you because liars told you and now you are repeating it to me like an obedient dog.

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[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

Are you telling me it's FAKE NEWS?

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[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 1 week ago

It is so sad and pathetic you can only think in the bounds of your media circus and its ridiculous catch phrases

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[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

It really seems like it's human nature to call out bullshit when you see it on your opposing side and then do mental gymnastics when it gets applied to you.

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[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This literally makes no sense, you applied nothing to me and you've said nothing of substance. You are unable to say anything worth while because you are a moron. You are totally full of shit too in that you believe you have evidence of a murder that you don't and are sure people are guilty before any sort of due process. You're just another propagandized American idiot and there is no value to reading anything you ever have to say. Talk to my block list fash

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[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

lol

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[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

no investigation no right to speak

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

He shot a man to death who killed thousands. He's a vigilante if anything.

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[+] Micromot@feddit.org -13 points 2 weeks ago

He still commited a crime which makes him a criminal which is just a fact and has nothing to do with the crime being justified

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago

What makes someone "criminal" as a quality? Breaking the law? Killing people? Are all health insurance workers criminals too?

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[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, the word criminal basically means law breaker.

Now as many laws are unjust and many horrific actions are protected by the law.

Just like at one point in time... a futitive slave, would be by definition a criminal, and his owner by definition not a criminal.

Again, the whole concept is noting that it's about the definition of the word criminal... and that criminal does not have to do with morality.... only in concurance with the laws of the land it is taking place in.

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[-] Micromot@feddit.org -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Commiting a crime makes you a criminal, so if you break a law you are a criminal. And if the decisions of health insurance workers are also breaking laws they are criminals too.

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

Then if you have ever gone faster than the speed limit, you are a criminal. That makes most people in the developed world criminals.

That aside, the point is that naming someone a criminal has moralistic baggage, and by saying that anyone that breaks laws is a criminal thus immoral, you imply all laws are inherently moral.

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[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's an infraction.

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Depends on the jurisdiction. In some places in some conditions going 50 in a 30 is a criminal act that can result in jail time.

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[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Just a bit more than "faster than the speed limit".

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

It's not noticing a sign next to roadworks in a city, sadly not uncommon.

I meant km/h, 30 is a fast cycling speed, 50 is the usual residential area speed limit.

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[-] Micromot@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

That is indeed true, although then it is a pretty subjective label

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[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 14 points 2 weeks ago

No. Luigi didn't shoot Brian Thompson. The police are lying.

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[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -10 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a delusional belief to me.

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[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 13 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like you're into guilty until proven innocent, which is pretty warped.

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[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago

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[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean... if you are asking me based on the evidence I have seen... yeah.

On the other hand, if I lived in new york, and were selected as a Jury.... I'd say the evidence is not compelling.

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