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Suella Braverman has suggested that the UK could become “the first Islamist nation with nuclear weapons”.

The former home secretary said Britain could “fall into the hands of Muslim fundamentalism” and become like Iran.

She made the incendiary comments in a speech to the right-wing Heritage Foundation think-tank in Washington.

Braverman said: “Vice-president JD Vance said at the National Conservatism conference, at which I also spoke in the summer, that the UK was going to be the first Islamist nation with nuclear weapons. I don’t think he was joking.

“Is it an impossibility that 20 years from now it will be the UK, not China or Russia, that will emerge as the greatest strategic threat to the USA?

“Born out of a broken relationship and weak leadership. What happens if the UK falls into the hands of Muslim fundamentalism, our legal system gets substituted for Sharia Law and our nuclear capabilities vest in a regime not too dissimilar to that of Iran today?

“Regardless of whether one thinks that is a realistic outcome, which I do not, should we not have the courage to ask these questions?”

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 5 days ago

How exactly is this supposedly going to happen? Given how massively under represented Muslims are in parliament, how exactly are they going to gain control.

Ohh, it's the Huffington Post. I was very confused for a minute there.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Only 6% of population is muslim.

This is just feeding a dangerously crazy rightwing meme. Stupid irresponsible woman.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At least we now have evidence that it aint that white people are evil piece shit but rather anyone who has money and power.

Can we now focus on fighting this class war?

[–] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 days ago

But equally racialised minorities are still the people that bare the brunt of the systematic violence of Capitalism and the state repression. In this instance as an example this is targeted at Muslims, but in the racialised sense any person of MENA or Indian subcontinent ethnic origin (or who looks like it).

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago

Good to hear the class war is back on, that whole race war business wasn't working for me.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unless France gets there first. /s
Also, isn't Pakistan and Islamist country ?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Islamic yes, Islamist I don't think so. That usually refers to a much more fundamentalist ideology. That said, Pakistan did test its first nukes under the dictatorship in the 80s, and while I don't know much about that period it does at a surface level look like it could probably be described as an Islamist period for Pakistan. So maybe there was an Islamist nuclear power and isn't anymore?

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Whoops, you are right, i don't know much about pakistanis separation of politics and religion today ... I went with the word used in the title of the post without considering it's exact meaning(s), which are now :

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Islamist
Islamist (plural Islamists)
1- (now rare) A Muslim. [from 19th c.]
2- A scholastic Muslim who specializes in Muslim academics. [from 1910s]
3- A Muslim who espouses Islamic fundamentalist beliefs. [from 1980s]

interestingly, it should be easy to say that USA has now become a ~~Christianistic~~ Christianist country.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago

Oh, interesting, I didn't know about the earlier usages!

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep.

Who would have thought that one of the most racist and cruel conservatives would be wrong and lying?

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 8 points 1 week ago

And she's Goan... That's really geographically close to Pakistan... What a dum dum.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

Islamist is just an incendiary term to excite racists

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 16 points 1 week ago

She's in fucking cuckoo land. Dumb fascist arsehole.

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably won't though, eh?

[–] 01011@monero.town 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pakistan ceased to exist?

Iraq had them too according to fellow lying western politicians.

It is either that, or giant ant women from the planet arseholia.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who the fuck is this woman?

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago

An idiot from the most far-right faction of the Tory party.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's weird because she was so sensible and well-balanced when in government. Perhaps she has been replaced by pod people. We should try and rescue her - I have a few days free in April.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago

I'm sure they'll give her back before then.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Inshallah, sister Suella!

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

“Regardless of whether one thinks that is a realistic outcome, which I do not, should we not have the courage to ask these questions?”

JAQing off is a form of bad-faith propaganda.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

It's a fucking ~~Anglo-Saxon~~ Norman monarchy. Anyone in England insensate enough to be afraid that the country could suddenly become dominated by another religion should be remanded to reeducation immediately

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I thought it was a Norman monarchy.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That ended with the Tudors, or the Lord Protector, or King Billy, depending on how hard a stop you require. Certainly the current crop of Battenbergs don't have much connection to the Normans.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

You learn something every day. Thanks!

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

Off to the reeducation camp with you!

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

Given the pretty recent struggles with Catholics getting into positions of power in Parliament, you'd think she'd know better. Although, to be fair, the Catholics have had a go at blowing up the Houses of Parliament.