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I just finished setting up a custom router with dns ad blocking. Next comes a media player so I can purge this smart TV filth from my household.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

To be fair, the super bowl ads are seen as part of the entertainment by many people and the companies generally do go out of their way to make the funniest or cutest ads of the year. Any other time I would fully agree with you.

[–] bananymous@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is American football not merely a vehicle through which advertising can be pumped? You’d think the entire sport had been designed from the ground up for such a purpose.

Four seconds of action, six minutes of commercials….3.6 seconds of action, 47 replays, five minutes of commercials.

P.S. Smart TVs can eat shit and die.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I went to a game for the first time a few years ago. I recall the moment where everyone was sitting around and not doing anything because they were waiting for the commercials to finish. It felt like watching actors drop their characters the moment they step out of the spotlight.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

This (and the ridiculous, eye gouging price) is why I'd never go to a UFC event. It's bad enough when I'm home and I have to go clean the kitchen or fold my laundry for 30 minutes if a fight finishes even slightly early, but having to stand around waiting for ads to finish on a PPV card would turn me into Ted Kaczynski

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It will be a dark day indeed when I allow my TV to connect to the internet. These things are glorified monitors.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

You're right, we should start putting ads on all monitors

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 19 hours ago

Somewhere, an ad exec just stiff.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 20 hours ago

It's come full circle.

Back in the early 00s, I invited my buddy over to watch the super bowl commercials. Neither one of us gave a damn whatsoever about football, put the commercials were always lit.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Tangentally related, FUTO put a bad taste in my mouth when they were harassing the graphene os team https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113443396794247106

[–] Waldschrat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Return it. If you hold on to it (even if you block the ads and all) it will signal the manufacturer, that this practice is fine.

[–] Dickarus@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

A cheap computer/laptop. HDMI cable. Ublock origin (sprinkle some sponserblock and privacy badger in there). A TV that is never connected to the internet. Voila. No ads. None. Zilch. Zero. Ad free.

Streaming platforms that have gone to ad supported formats make me laugh because it's just a 3-5 second black screen, not the ad, and it's back to the content. Been doing it for decades. Don't sit there and get reamed by their bullshit.

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

AFAIK this will only get you 720p to 1080p depending on the streaming service. No 4K, no HDR.

[–] 46_and_2@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

Plenty of 4k with HDR on Real Debrid. Or even better quality and bitrate ripped from BRs, in the open waters.

[–] Dickarus@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

HDMI 2.1 can support 4k. Find a ship that doesn't sink. Voila. No ads. Zilch. Zero. Nada. No HDR? Better than a single second of an ad.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buy a smart TV box like Apple TV or Nvidia Shield. You can get full quality streaming with some ads but not nearly as bad as the software that’s built into some of these TVs.

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[–] shasta@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago

It'll be 4k if you install the windows app for the service or watch in Edge.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why the fuck does your television have a home page?

Never give the TV the wifi password.

[–] aeharding@vger.social 2 points 17 hours ago

Why the fuck does your television have a home page?

FLauncher is pretty great :)

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I made my Smart TV into a dumb TV by never activating the smart TV functions. And then I plugged a relatively cheap computer into it. So I don't have this kind of problem.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Your grandma does.

I installed her TV and internet last week. She barely understands the concept of switching TV inputs, and her Roku smart TV doesn't let you rename inputs from HDMI1 to [ISP NAME] unless the thing is connected to the internet. It also defaults out of the box to show the smart TV bullshit every single time you turn it on, instead of just showing the last used input before the TV turned off. So she's completely baffled how to watch simple television channels unless I spend 10 minutes reconfiguring this garbage so it's usable.

Go visit your grandma, everyone. And reconfigure her smart TV. I'm joking but I'm not. I can only visit so many grandmas per day.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have a very old 4K Toshiba TV with a built in "smart browser" that, due to me never plugging into the Internet, has a home page with news about how well Obama's doing in the polls for being a relatively unknown junior senator.

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[–] bluelander@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

I bought a new TV last year after my Hisense kicked the bucket and had a similar experience.

Not sure if it applies to your situation, but I just factory reset my TV, never enabled wifi, and hooked up a smart device I had lying around (Nvidia Shield). Now it all works great and if the smart functions upset me I can throw just the smart TV part in the trash and go back to my VCR.

[–] aprehendedmerlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most smart TV OS are Cancer doesn't matter how much you paid for it

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 3 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

LG TVs, at least three one I have, have a pretty good operating system. I've never seen an ad (yet)

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 hours ago

My TV has an even better operating system, Linux, because it's a display panel with an old laptop connected to it. Imagine seeing advertisements on your television screen, couldn't be me.

[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

LG is one of the worst. Only TVs with ROKU are worse for privacy concerns. ROKU, LG and Samsung make Google look good when it comes to invasion of privacy.

I've been against the idea of smart TVs from day one. A good panel will easily have a longer life than whatever smart box they shoe horn into TVs now. That's reason enough to avoid that trap.

Mark my words on this: on top of the privacy invasion Future smart TVs will be designed to slow down to the point of being unusable well before their panels wear out to force upgrades and prevent third party repairs.

[–] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This feels like my Philips. It has gotten so damn slow lately. I thought I had partially cleaned the system and yesterday I did a check and removed 25 apps thanks to adb. 25. I could not remove them from the TV setttings. Most of it was co.uk.freeview shit... was it there on my previous cleanup? Doubt. Did I install that? No.

[–] TheBeesKnees 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

This might depend on the version the OS is. I have an LG that's been great for years, then it got a ""fresh new look"" that featured a giant banner for "recommendations."

I had auto-updates off, too. Thankfully, they still had an option to revert to the previous menu - but who knows how long that'd stay an option? It pissed me off enough to finally setup AdGaurd Home on my home server.

Fun Fact: It's increased my phone's battery life by ~48 hours (excluding the rare occasion where its being actively used all day).

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Disable all internet functionality, set the time to the 1990s to prevent many timers from going off, attach the tv to another device that doesn’t have ads via your cable of choice. But why was your smart tv 1700? Did it have some special features?

[–] TheBeesKnees 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Not disagreeing, but at some point this won't be enough. Assuming companies aren't already, "offline" devices will get shipped with the ability to utilize unsecured networks and/or other devices. Better hope any neighbors are privacy conscious too.*

(they're not)

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

I’ve been recommending physically snipping radios, but that can cause issues if you don’t understand what you’re doing. Any chance you know whether it’s possible to simply delete drivers and backups on modern smart tvs? Mine is ancient, so I have no clue what they’re doing to y’all, nowadays.

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[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

cant one simple adb debloat any droid device? i mean adb list those packages, maybe even backup some and then remove the obvious ones?!

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Not if they're baked into the system. Although that may get into GPL violations, I forget. God knows a device can come with locked firmware though.

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

i dont know what you mean by baked in really. all services are packages i guess and a quick google search says stuff like that at least exist at some point, e.g.https://github.com/tutyamxx/androidtv-debloat-script

i wish op the best of luck to escape telemetry hell.

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

Adb is just an interface between computer and phone, the packages it lists may not be every system component, you can add anything in at kernel level, or also just not list it in that interface.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 29 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Apple TV was the best media thing I’ve bought in over a decade. No ads ever, incredibly responsive (league of its own compared to stuff like Roku), and is able to stream from my Jellyfin server. Beautiful interface, fast, clean, simple controller with a battery life that is easily over a year. Just a really good product. Roku can suck by nuts. Literal full page ads in a product that advertises that it has zero of them. Even the most expensive version. Fuck Roku.

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