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[–] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 29 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t consider it an ally of the American people, either.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It's too bad that the sensible areas of US are on both sides of the continent. Would make a split much simpler if they were closer together.

[–] sith@lemmy.zip 37 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe France will end up liberating the North American continent once again. πŸ˜‰

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

You could find an area with an "oppressed" French minority, and start by stirring an uprising in there. Once the pot begins to boil, try adding some French commando forces in disguise.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 7 points 20 hours ago

They could start in la Louisiane and OrlΓ©ans, and teach you how to pronounce these names correctly

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 6 points 22 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

Time for take-backsies on the Louisiana Purchase. Also the Statue of Liberty.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

For 53% of American people, the United States is no longer an ally of US.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago

The time to express that was 4 months ago. Now you can only buy a leopard-proof mask and pray.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

France should take the Statue of Liberty back. The US gov will probably replace it anyway, by one of Donald having is golden balls sucked by a sexy eagle while driving a cybertruck, or something.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 97 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The other 27% must not read the news, eh?

Even if you believe the US is an ally to whatever country you're from (outside of Russia, of course), he's proven to be untrustworthy and unreliable.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I assume the 27% are mostly fans of Marine Le Pen and they quite like Donald Trump.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

27% hoping the US is just going through a phase

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

France has always been a bit different. They left NATO for a bit to push back against the US/UK dominance and they developed an independent nuclear deterrent and delivery systems. They are a shit country in many ways, probably more like the US than they realise. They held onto colonialism for too long, have a stupid political system and their police and security services have done some shitty things. But hard not to admire their independence even if some of their motivations for independence (eg maintaining colonial possessions) might have been suspect.

Many countries caved to the US and became client states, heavily reliant on US defence industry and an extension of the US military, not because we were free loaders as Trump claims but because the US pushed their interests so hard and for so long. We cancelled our own weapons programs and shuttered our factories to support US jobs ahead of our own. Most of us are so dependent on the US it has been hard to conceive of a world without them. Being against the US alliance was basically equivalent to being against national security and being a fool or a supporter of potential enemies.

Trump is breaking people's world view. The French leadership were decades ahead of the rest of us.

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

The French people are amazing! They actually fight against oppression. Look up the gilets jaunes movement. The media barely covered it but they protest loudly, disruptively and even violently, looting etc. French descent people tend to do the same, eg the student fees protests in Montreal, in which the students won!!

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A small correction, France never left NATO completely. They left a lot of the joint command structures and stopped hosting NATO's HQ in Paris, but they never cancelled the treaty or anything like that

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 5 points 22 hours ago

I can’t blame them. I wouldn’t want to be an ally with the U.S. either.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The French:

Ever since those fuckers voted for the insane right wing populist lunatic, they are no longer a reliable ally!!

Also the French:

Yay, Le Pen!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats the 73%/23% split explained.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

73%/23%

Someone can't maths!

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[–] sircac@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Only? Probably for the remaining 27% it never was...

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