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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm still not convinced that isn't just insurance fraud to try to recoup some money for junky cars no one wants while pretending he's a political victim.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Good luck getting that proven in a court

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The best thing about this is that Tesla is massively overvalued. Like, the stock price is more than 20x what it should be based on Tesla's earnings.

If Tesla had a reasonable value, then hedge fund managers and other rich people would probably be buying it while it was temporarily down and getting rich as it went back up. But, with it so insanely overvalued, it's much more likely they'll short it or buy put options and hope to get rich when it finally crashes.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Relatively speaking, Tesla is far less overvalued than in the past.

At one point their market cap exceeded every other automaker in the world COMBINED.

That might make sense if they were making unprecedented loads of money but of course they got trounced in sales compared to Toyota then and now.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, it was at something like 30x overvalued, now it's only 20x overvalued.

Glad you mentioned Toyota. Their P/E ratio is approximately 7. Tesla is approximately 100. If Tesla were a well run car company with a lot of good vehicles and an anonymous CEO who nobody hates, the fair value of their stock would be about $14 per share. It's currently $236 per share.

Someone is going to make mountains of money shorting Tesla stock, but unfortunately it's going to be someone rich. The market can remain irrational much longer than normal people can remain solvent. Some rich dude is going to take the risk though and make out like a bandit.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

NOOOOO don't look at P/E ratios (the auto sector has always had extraordinarily low P/E ratios) you have to look at relative PEG ratios!

At least that was the copium years ago. Now that their sales growth has petered out globally (even before all of the President Musk backlash) and China has free-money'd their way to a technological advantage for EVs I don't even understand it anymore. The other automakers are either caught up or rapidly approaching and the thing I've been saying for years (PHEVs are superior to BEVs for most people) is being proven true.

Before I called it hysteria and FOMO and blind optimism but now I just don't get it.

[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The funny thing is the first tweet was right, just wrong in his intention. I don't see this ending without a civil war.

[–] EnderWiggin@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's what they want. They are gambling on it.

[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

As long as they don't step into canada, all that will be waiting is a bullet and a disgraceful burial.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

Common Sense Skeptic's videos sure are fun to watch again.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 20 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I like it when Nazi man-children cry.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago
[–] segabased@lemmy.zip 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

How the hell do Elon and other oligarchs feel so safe to call for a literal civil war? He thinks the other side cares more about fighting Joe Bob more than the billionaires? Such strange delusional behavior

[–] afronaut@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago

Historically, that is how elites have always maintained their power, so yes. It’s just a lot more difficult to 1) mobilize an overworked and comfort-seeking populace, and 2) we are more interconnected than ever before.

The power of propaganda is being seized by the people. We create the content. We cover current and localized events (in actual real time) because it’s our actual communities. We know who is who and what is what.

[–] Heikki@lemm.ee 19 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Does anyone else think the "happening in my town of (insert town name here)" is a bot account he set up to blow up small isolated incidents?

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

genocide? cool and good. black bagging people for protected speech? yeah, pretty fucking cool. letting people die of preventable disease and disaster? yeah, what are you, gay?

but damaging a car? you're basically the worst thing a person can be.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

not damaging a car, what he considers attacking his ego by damaging his worthless scrap heaps. Weight on the word his, as they remain his cars even if you pay for them. he can take control of them or do whatever so you literally can't even own a tesla, only suck up to musk.

[–] ItsJannnneee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is from the same guy who said Hitler didn't kill millions of people. He's being deliberately obtuse and he thinks everyone must be stupid.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

We brought him a little taste of civil war. He's just mad he's on the losing side.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (17 children)

I love that we have found a way to hurt him, keep it up.

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[–] Soulg@ani.social 34 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Property damage is not violence, say it with me now

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

"it with me now"

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Musk: "Civil War is Inevitable!"

People destroy his company's products.

Musk:

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[–] Litics@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 22 hours ago

Thoughts and prayers.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 146 points 1 day ago (5 children)

He assumed his opponents would kill random people instead of targeting his property.

He probably can't even comprehend a worldview where people prefer to attack wealth over taking another human being's life.

[–] cabinet_sanchez@midwest.social 12 points 23 hours ago

I was looking for someone saying this. He was envisioning a bunch of us poors fighting each other when he called for civil war. He never thought it would be all of us against him.

It really does show that violence might be the only way to get through to these people. Not that I would ever advocate for such a thing directly myself of course of course. But if this is the only thing that gets their attention, it seems like he's inviting more of it.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 176 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You know what's horrific and evil? Cutting Medicaid and social security for millions of people because your billions of dollars isn't enough money to make up for the fact that you're a giant man baby.

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[–] Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It continues to amaze me just how many grown-ass adults have seemingly never moved beyond schoolyard-levels of maturity. This is like typical childhood bully stuff. And that's before we even get into these immature manbabies actually have real power over people...

[–] nicky7@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 day ago (3 children)

When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. The temperament is not that different.

  • Donald Trump

I'm not even joking.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/575962/donald-trump-tells-biographer-hes-same-now-first-grade

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What did he think was going to happen?

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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It would make my year if he cried live in an interview where it dawns on him that he's the cause of his own demise. But he's not smart enough.

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