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Summary

Lawmakers from both parties expressed outrage after The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief revealed he was accidentally included in a Trump administration Signal chat discussing Yemen airstrikes.

Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-Pa.) and Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.) called for investigations and firings, labeling it a serious security breach.

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration's mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Buttery Males!

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Oh Im sorry, I thought you all quit.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned it with the words "Nerf THIS!"

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

This is surprisingly a middle ground. I've been seeing people on the right just as pissed off about this. They have a point too in that there can be two truths here.

He could have leaked information and needs to be held accountable.

The claim that the information leaked as stated can be exaggerated.

Just be careful out there that they don't rope you into looking like idiots by being over dramatic.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 6 days ago

It's amusing watching Free Republic go hmm, errr, Atlantic = North Korea, err, fuck this is bad.

[–] Especially_the_lies@startrek.website 305 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] Kraiden@kbin.earth 72 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't really care about her emails with that statement, it was her pronoun which was the problem they were crying about.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'd say 50/50 because she's a woman and a Democrat.

Good thing she never wore a tan suit or used the wrong mustard, then Republicans would have done something drastic like storm the Capitol building!

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 153 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No heads will roll. What most stories miss is that the main reason they didn't use official channels for this (and most likely many of their other conversations as well) is that they don't want to comply with the Federal Records Act. They don't want there to be a record of a lot of the shit they're saying and doing and plan to do.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago

Trump and his regime’s cabinet are truly evil and rotten to their core.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know why the guy came clean, but it would have been so much more useful if we stayed on the chat. Really a big missed opportunity.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OTOH he did stay on it as long as he could while still being able to protect himself by saying he didn't think it could be real and most likely a scam or attempt to entrap, plus the thread was basically over by then anyway.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Yep. If he stayed on the chat too long he would have been arrested for espionage and imprisoned for life.

The trump regime’s gross incompetence put him in a dangerous position.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 109 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Devil's Advocate Hot Take:

This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that "We get to break rules, and you cannot." We see it as incompetence and abject hypocrisy, but it could be a purposeful leak because they don't care about being seen as hypocrites, they are about showing us they can get away with it. It could also be a Trial Balloon about the kind of wars they intend to wage.

/takes off tinfoil hat

I really think they really are just this stupid, but I think its at least worthwhile to consider the alternative, because a lot of what conservatives do is about using hypocrisy as a weapon and expression of power over others. They want us getting angry about such things, so they can can be cool and collected and say that we're overreacting because they're so calm while chuckling and sneering at us.

"But her emails!" Yeah they don't actually give a shit, they may just want to show they can get away with it. Much like Trump rejecting using a government issued cell phone in his first term and Bush "losing" millions of emails.

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

The first part is purely conjecture of their intent. It is irrelevant and unknowable. The facts are they leaked this to a reporter. They should be held accountable based on the facts, not their intent.

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Being dumb is the meta rn

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that “We get to break rules, and you cannot.”

Hanlon's razor applies I think:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence or stupidity"

I really think they really are just this stupid

Yep. They fired all the adults that think things through and provide rigor for a reason so the only people left are children doing whatever they want ignorant of the consequences.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 week ago

No I'd say there's absolutely a good share of malice in the mix with incompetence and stupidity.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Congress: Somebody should really do something to rein this administration in!

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[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine that. You have unqualified amateurs in important government positions, and they don't know what they're doing.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

But they claim that they know better than the actual experts they displace

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The really sad thing is that in this scenario only Republicans matter. As long as they keep treating Trump as some kind of god-emperor, nothing will happen.

I was going to say "treating him as a king", but England and Canada have kings and would never put up with this kind of shit from a king. England hasn't put up with kings acting this way since the Magna Carta was signed.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

God-Emperor is literally what they called him on r/thedonald

[–] Jyrdano@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I might be wrong, but I recall the thedonald being pretty much a joke sub until it was hijacked by nazis and maggats.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

I don't remember that. I never remember them being anything but poisonous.

They were always trying to "joke" their way into the front page, but their intention was always to crowd out opposing opinions.

Bad actors always use "free speech" and "tolerance" against their opponents to gain a foothold, and then use that foothold to leverage a pogrom.

Over and over again.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago

Yep, it started that way.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

He's going to turn into a sand-worm?

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From alcoholics, to heroin addicts, to ketamine fueled Nazis, the Trump administration is running like a well oiled crack addict machine.

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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The so-called experts on Trump over at the Atlantic wrote a long and boring article on my cellphone usage that is so incorrect I do not have time here to correct it. I only use Government Phones, and have only one seldom used government cell phone. Story is soooo wrong!

--@RealDonaldTrump

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Way too coherent to be real.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

when hes not on adderall or cocaine.

Also, he refused to use a government phone in his first term.

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[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They only have themselves to blame. If you're actively destroying OPSEC you have no reason to fucking cry.

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