Wait, isn't this just extortion? Smashing in a shop's windows and telling the owner if he wants to put in new ones he needs to pay the guy with the bat first.
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This is just Mafia like extortion. It doesnt really matter now if/when these tariffs are undone - Trump has totally destroyed the US reputation as a reliable ally and trade partmer.
No deal with the US is worth the paper its written on, as everything is dependent on the whims of one person.
Presidential systems are sources of weakness and instabilty it seems. They're no better than monarchs, and the whole system can easily be twisted into dictatorship. Look at Russia and now the US.
He also crippled the trust in us tech. It will be a slow change but the EU will eventually get rid of Microsoft 365.
And Azure (process is already running at work) and Google workplace like things (searching for a eu partner).
Turns out that allowing people to choose from a very limited pool of potential rulers every couple of years doesn't actually give them any real power over their society, and maybe it's just a way to delay revolution while the true ruling class gets all the benefits of the old monarchs with almost none of the blowback, because we're all too divided over which potential ruler is less blatantly evil to address the real problems.
It's a very effective method of social control, but it would be a really bad idea for one of the de facto ruling class to try to step into the de jure ruler's office and try to run it for himself like a dictator. That would probably blow up in his face.
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The EU are currently trying the carrot (offering zero for zero), Next comes the stick (targeted import and export tarrifs).. it would hurt the EU, but cripple the US.
Just tariff cloud stocks, watch everything crumble.
Coordinate with China on this shit. The EU and China may have their differences, but they have a common goal here and together they substantially outweigh the US
I think there is a possibility for an EU, China, Canada plus others.. agreement to smooth over the gap from loss of US trade.
Maybe we are going to see a unification of the world over this! Everyone rallies together to fight the U.S. tariffs, and then there's no more U.S.! World peace at last. Thanks Trump!
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EU should target the services. US exports services like google, meta etc than goods. If that happens, US goes to depression.
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Just say no EU. The more he hears the word the more it will drive home how wrong he is. Of course his type is incapable of admitting that they are wrong.
He also criticized EU product standards as “non-monetary barriers” designed to block American exports.
lol, lmfao even
product standards exist for a reason.
how about no, fuckface
They should say "okay but only green energy, no oil or gas"
Please send solar panels Sincerely,
-Europe
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FUCK YOU TRUMP
This fucking moron. So he shuts down green energy initiatives here, tries to push oil, then tries to force other countries to buy dirty energy. Fucks sake man it's something new every day.
Sounds like there won't be any good faith negotiations with the US.
This sounds like BS, does the US even have enough capxitt or export $350 billion worth of energy (oil, LNG?).
Even I can sell $350B worth of energy if I increase the price enough.
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But he said the tariffs were permanent. This was not a 'negotiating' tactic. Oh wait, he fucking lied, like he does every time he breathes. This is the "art of the deal", AKA the bad deal. What an idiot bully con man. President Felon.
They basically are permanent if his alternative is the EU buying the entire GDP of Finland in extra LNG every year
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Wait, wait, wait.
Trump, under the direction of parties unknown, is trying to force the EU to buy U.S. energy resources, and that’s the linchpin of his trade war with them?
Is he trying to give Europe a nudge back to Russian oil supplies?
If you’re a (western) European leader returning to Russian energy is at best shortsighted amnesia, at worst blatant malfeasance. There’s several reasons to not go back to Russia:
- Official legal based sanctions on Russian energy
- Ukrainian drone based ‘sanctions’ on Russian energy
- Russia’s track record of energy blackmail/hybrid warfare
- LNG and oil production available in your EEZ/the EU, albeit at higher cost than imported
- Domestic solar, hydro, and wind manufacturing/generation is ramping up
- French nuclear energy exports
- Domestic politics ie. voters turning against Russian imperial aggression/expansionism
Eastern Europe has a slightly different incentive mix, but there’s still a lot of reasons to not
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Or y'know, give Canada somewhere else to sell theirs.
EU should squeeze the Tariff wokism out of Snowflake Trump.
Amerikkka can fuck off.
Ah, so now they are begging for money. Hard no, pass, skip, forget it, we're good thanks.
" I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It's PATHETIC.”
They don't need $350B of US energy. why not sell something they need instead for forcing your customer to eat "McDonald's" when they don't need or want to.
Might as well force penguins to buy ice cube and snow made in US.
Also they dont "owe" the US anything. Trump has a cretinous understanding of economics.
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If they needed it, they'd have bought it. The whole point with all this is, to have the rest of the world buy stuff from the US, that they don't neen or already buy from other places because it makes more sense. There is no logic - it is straight up blackmail
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As soon as he spends that much on ukraine
Fuck Trump. Buy nothing from us. Tell yur leaders fuck not and burn down the country if they do.
I really hope that EU will remain strong and not fall for any of this BS!
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Whatever, Trump.
Ok, let's negotiate. How about this: I'll buy one Big Mac, and in return US will buy 3000 Volkswagens, 1500 Mercedes(es?!?) and at least 3 French or Italian cars...
That way the US ends up with good cars, and I am willing to risk my own health in order to improve the relations.
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Pass. I hear China has a lot of spare renewable stuff on discount now that you're no longer going to be trading with them, we'll enjoy those instead.
Ues, becoming energy dependent on this belligerent administration sounds like a great idea
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