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This is the number one thing. The US collapsed because of inequality. Liberals are out.

And it can be summarised in one word: materialism.

Yes to all but for completeness you probably want to spell out this important effect of wealth inequality. The wealth consolidated at the top buys state power which then helps distribute even more wealth to the top. As long as this feedback loop is allowed to run, none of the other proposed solutions would help. For example, education is amended to teach people to support the feedback loop, not break it.

What could solving this look in practice? Actively participate in your union, unionize, vote for economic left parties that support unionization and breaking the wealth inequality loop.

That's the only solution.

And how would you fix wealth inequality, without causing capital flight.

I have a rule: I don't pronounce the word fascist (in private or in public, I don't care) without prefixing it with "lurid" in English and in Italian appending "di merda" after fascista/i. As someone who had nightmares at night about them, given the testimony of my grandmother, I feel that not qualifying fascist people is somehow working in their favor.

The day I will see a politician using that rule in a TV interview I will know that we have again a chance.

The gist is that you shouldn’t try to argue with them, they don’t care about reality.

That may be true on a face to face level. In public, like on social media, it's essential to keep arguing. Not to convince the person you're arguing with, but to show other people reading that theirs is not the only perspective, nor is it the majority.

This is quite literally the opposite of how you actually get people to support your cause. Ask any psychologist.

Shutting them out completely might work fine when they're a tiny minority, but when in some cases a quarter of the population agrees with them enough to vote for them, doing that is simply impossible. They will have reach.

I also still think we need people throwing their morals about manipulating people to the wind and starting to peddle left wing conspiracy theories just like the right wingers are doing. For example with how perfectly it fits there really should be an actual movement behind the whole trump=the biblical antichrist thing in the US, but I've only seen it as satire in spaces that are already left wing.

This just doesn't have a any connection with reality. You know what you suggest is what has been done for 20 years and it has massively failed? In basically all western countries? Learn from your mistakes or be an idiot.

Make sure that you understand materialism and solidarity grounded in self interest if you want to win the working class. Get rid of idealists and identity politics (unless they're working class or populist identity politics). Get your head around consequential ethics and how to set political priorities.

I recommend studying the 1930s strategy of the Swedish SAP.

Yeah you can't argue with logic and reason of the other side does not accept this language and is always acting in bad faith. Engaging fascists civilly is always helping them gain ground. But not engaging with them becomes more difficult the more mind share they gain. How should not engaging look in practice? All of politics and media would need to stop giving them a platform at once. And again this is something we regular people don't really have in our hands at all.

That's such a middling long game, though... My personal fear is that any potential long game just gives them the space to solidify their grip on the population, I think everyone needs to do/see something pretty much soon-ish to make them want to believe in the rational alternative.

We're entering tumultuous times in terms of emotional load, everyone is nearing desperation at an alarming rate. That's a dangerous playground to reach.

Edit: not that I have the faintest about what could be done, I've been wracking my brain with this question for a while.

Propotional representation? As in party lists? How much country needs it to be marked?

You really think the American left dehumanises republican voters?

Let's see: Democrats exclusively talk about "crossing the aisle" and bipartisanship. Bernie Sanders excessively highlights the importance of protecting low income middle Americans who work(ed) in manufacturing and other sectors that lean Republican voters, while trying to sneak in some "also no, minorities aren't evil" rhetoric.

Old school GOP says gays are sinners, new school GOP/MAGA calls transgender folks pedophiles, liberals communist unemployed rioters, and ethnic minorities "freeloaders who should go back to their countries".

What a load of shit saying that the American left wing is to blame for "dehumanising" the right wing. I don't think the way to fight extreme far-right ideology that is currently, actively supporting horrible shit is to pamper them and call them angels and ignore the shit they're doing.

And here's some extra data to prove the point:

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I will clarify, I believe MAGA supporters are idiots. They are being duped into voting to gut the social services that blue states taxes pay for to help them avoid poverty, medical bankruptcy, and the effects of climate change. Their voter habits are led first and foremost by a desire to "own the libs", anti-LGBTQ religion and parasitic megachurches, and plain old racism. I do not believe they're evil, but they support some really evil stuff and we're really fucking far down the (billionaire and Russian funded/influenced) propaganda and MAGA-cult of personality rabbit hole at this point that I'm not going to just sugar coat all the nonsense they do and that they support.

I want all republicans to be able to live dignified lives and get their fair share of America's wealth. I want our federal government to support them with free education, free healthcare, free childcare, and honestly, a basic universal income. I know that red states will never have the money to pay for these things. I don't care. I will happily pay higher taxes for them to have these things.

But they keep voting against it. Instead, they vote in people who want to send immigrants to El Salvadorean prison camps. They commit hate crimes against my race. They ban people from Muslim countries including impacting green card holders. They don't see any problem with the current Republican administration accidentally (or not) deporting legal immigrants or sending deportation orders to US-born US citizens.

So don't tell me that I, or the American left-wing who is a hell of a lot nicer than this, dehumanise the right. That's a load of shit. We're trying to make it so the federal government will raise our taxes to help take care of them, and every other American in the bottom 99%, instead of using racist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, and political-belief-polarizing rhetoric to gain support with the sole purpose of (traditionally) lowering taxes for corporations and the top 1% and (now) doing a shit-ton of insider trading and cutting down voter rights.

Almost none of this is comparable to EU politics. Maybe there's examples here and there, but especially in Western Europe, this situation does not exist in Europe, so don't even pretend like the average MAGA supporter is the same as a SD or FN or FdI voter.

Hahahaha, 'the left was mean to the right in the US and now Trump is very angry 😭, lets not do the same and directly give them power in Europe 🥰'

I for too think the problem of US is there is too many Marxist Leninist in it... Damn Marxist Leninist they ruined it 😂😂😂