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Death to NATO

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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But I was told that Ukraine is winning and Russia is in tatters.

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't trust your lying memory, Jack biden-forgor

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You know, weirdly enough. Back in my idiot libertarian years, I didn't see the world of :1984: as a representation of "Stalinist Russia" or something. But of neoliberal US and UK... Huh, :1984: was instrumental in me becoming a :red-team:. lol

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[–] ReadFanon@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This came through on my news feed today with the headline "Is this the turning point? War in Ukraine"

Here's the turning point:

If you can't spot it, it's that tiny blue area in the zaporizhzhia oblast, on the border of the red area.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m so tired that I thought that I was looking at a map of Vietnam.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Ukrainian military is within 150km of reaching Ho Chi Minh City 😳

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 years ago

Would be funny if the Ukrainian military just showed up in the South China Sea like that

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Lmao, they should've made the reclaimed teritorries red for visibility but nooooooo that's the evil team color! We can't use that! The good guys are historically blue and so are we! Lmao.

I'll forever be a

[–] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair, Russian media also uses red for their own side, and has been so since the Soviet times (the Red Army after all) and everyone is already used to the color scheme.

[–] sevenapples@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 years ago

I've heard that pre-WW2 everyone else also used red for their side

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 2 years ago

RED >>>>>>>> BLU

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[–] Idliketothinkimsmart@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you don't get it...once they hit that checkpoint, the red map will turn blue, and that basically means a checkmate for ukraine.

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[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago

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[–] betterredthandead@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 2 years ago

Inifinitely prolong the suffering. Nice job, very humane

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What weapons can they be given that are going to fix their manpower issue. Clones? Robots? Weapons don't do much without people to use them, and trained in how to use them properly.

I suppose a few more teenagers will be old enough to be conscripted by 2025.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ukraine is pressuring EU countries who accepted Ukrainian refugees to repatriate Ukrainian men of military age for conscription.

They're scraping the barrel now and I don't see how they can stave off military collapse even if the EU countries agree.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also a breach of international refugee law (being a type of refoulement) but of course what's a violation of international law or two if it's plucky wholesome Ukraine doing it?

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 2 years ago

Ukraine is in a tough spot. Normally this situation would hasten your defeat and force you to negotiate a peace (and I'm not sure they'll get their refugees back to conscript). But the Zelensky regime can't sign peace, NATO won't allow it. They have to fight until NATO says stop, and they have no idea when that'll come. Honestly we've been saying "to the last Ukrainian" for a while but it might even go beyond that, if you can imagine it. To the last parcel of Ukrainian land maybe. It's not in their hands at all.

I can only hope Zelensky and his entire cabinet get what they rightfully deserve at the end of this instead of fucking off to Hawaii where they get to live cozy lives paid by the CIA.

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[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 2 years ago

Moscow by Christmas?

[–] rubpoll@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every last Ukranian will be sacrificed for NATO's interests.

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[–] T34@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Here's how Ukraine can still win!"

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Imagine the struggle session if Obama calls and ratfucks Ukraine.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

I think Democrats will only turn on Ukraine if they win the next election. The important thing is to have it technically be the republicans that did it

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago
[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't forget to ramp up soldier production 🤡

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huge chance that the west starts deporting refugees back to Ukraine to fight.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

deporting refugees from Syria to fight in Ukraine

[–] huf@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

this person right here officer, they're using the lathe without a license!

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Unable to comply, building in progress.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago

The financers of the war must magically improve production tenfold and then maybe, just maybe, Ukraine might have a chance.

Either that or they'll decree war economy for us who live 2000 kilometres away from Ukraine.

[–] COMHASH@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 2 years ago

only war will bring peace , clown world.

[–] Flaps@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

Wonder who builds the weapons and how they're related to the financial times

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That assumes Moscow's weapons production also remains constant.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

And Ukraine also managing to "produce" increasing number of new soldiers.

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 years ago

Don't give the UkraNazis any ideas. They aren't big on consent.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 years ago

s/produce/kidnap

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[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago

You mean it doesn't decrease?

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[–] COMHASH@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

by 2025 NATO will not exist, lol

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] COMHASH@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

by that time Europe will be in dire recession and full of Nazi marches ...XD

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So optimal conditions for NATO to exist in?

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[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 2 years ago
[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

They're doing a quadruple Friedman Unit.

Incredible.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Victory by ~~2023~~ ~~2024~~ ~~2025~~ ~~2026~~ ~~2027~~ ~~2028~~ ~~2029~~ 2030 is possible

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

Oh cool we've reached the bargaining stage

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gonna need some more international brigades then.
Go to any ukrainian village and their graveyards are full, and all of those stones are from 2020 onwards.

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