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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

So abandon economic justice and civil rights.

Is there anything left?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

The color blue, instead of red.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

The democrats were never left.

Let's get back to our controlled opposition roots.

[–] some_guy 20 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Elissa Slotkin can fuck off.

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency…

Oh, she can really fuck off.

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“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.

This is code for not rocking the boat.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 18 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

First part of article title is a bit misleading I think. She thinks "Kings" is a better term than oligarchy because it's more relatable. She has a plan to fight kings. She does seem to think wokeness is weak though.

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.

“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.

[–] Birch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

God fuck this woman

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago

People recognize when they're being talked down to, this is a losing strategy.

[–] blaggle42@lemmy.today 12 points 5 hours ago

Somehow this made it worse. “goddamn Alpha energy” - who are these people. All I want is for the dems to not be rich people faking concern for the poor.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 15 points 7 hours ago

Of course. They don't want to fix things, they just want to be the ones getting the benefits.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

kamala never mentioned identity politics on the campaign

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 30 points 10 hours ago

The Democratic Party is so full of collaborationists. Just shows how democracy and capitalism are incompatible. The bourgeois class just buy the politicians.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 7 hours ago

Sure stop pamdering to the wealthy and make plans to support and luft the general populace in all areas and you will stop being "woke".
And guess what, the best way to pay for it is to get the fiar share of taxes back from those that are avoiding paying completely by paying laakers privately.

Wow, so easy, much fun.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

Put her near the top of the list to be primaried.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 13 hours ago

Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing

FTFY

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Fighting Oligarchy resonates greatly. But yes, the dems have focused too much on the culture war in favour of participating in the class war against the working class.

That is definitely something they should put waaaay more focus on. Trump is the cry for help of much of the working class, if people would believe you actually fought FOR the working people in your country, the dems would be unstoppable.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

But yes, the dems have focused too much on the culture war

No, republicans focus on the culture war. democrats are playing defense. Well, if you call forfeiting "playing defense."

[–] Uranus_Hz@lemm.ee 43 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

She’s sorta right. ‘Oligarchy’ is a big college word that Joe Bumblefuck doesn’t understand.

Aristocrats is a good word, but again: “duh?”

Therefore Dems just need to start harping about “rich fucking parasites”

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 11 points 8 hours ago

People are clued in on oligarchy even if they don’t quite know the exact definition. After Bernie and AOC started their tour, it was Wikipedia top 5 articles. Slotkin is just a right wing traitor.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

Yep. She's talking about changing optics and messaging to something that resonates with the larger 'I know very little about politics but I still vote' group of voters.

The headline feels like clickbait.

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[–] tronx4002@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Seems to be an unpopular opinion, but she is right. I think the people upset with her in the comments do not live in red areas.

As stupid as it sounds, that is all people seem to care about. The right used to have abortion as a drum to bang. Now that Roe is overturned the right needed a new social cause, and they found 'woke' which is WAY more effective than abortion since it seems to excite both religious, and non-religious.

If you go and talk with people in rural areas you will be shocked by how prominent this issue is in their minds, and I believe it will always beat economic issues for them.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

Democrats win by turning out people who otherwise don't vote. If they aren't already turned on by republicans talking like this, will those people see this as anything other than Democrats talking down to them?

[–] asim0v@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It’s prominent in people’s minds because it has been spoon-fed to them by propaganda machines masquerading as actual media controlled by… drumroll oligarchs!

Source: I live in a deep red area in TX. It’s scary the shit people believe because they saw it on Fox News, OAN, or a myriad of bullshit online outlets.

[–] tronx4002@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

100%. When having this debate I always bring up that the actual "woke" legislation being passed is at best minimal and pandering, and has 0 effect on most people lives. It is a fictional boogie meant to fill the void of abortion as an issue.

But right wing media has been extremely successful and making it seem like this is all the left thinks about. In that sense it is true that the AOC/Sanders tour is a great way to reclaim the conversation, but it is also true that the left needs to fight the narrative that they are the woke party if they want to stop America's rightward drift.

[–] michel@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

The problem is the electoral system. In a system that allows for voting for smaller parties without wasting your vote, the US would probably have 4-5 parties at least. Red state moderates would not be lumped together with progressives, and main street Republicans with the evangelical wing with MAGA

The unfalsifiable orthodoxy. Moving to the far-right and appealing to moderate Republicans win elections. If a Democrat wins, it proves that this works, if a Democrat loses, they just hadn't moved far-right enough.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 35 points 18 hours ago

"Don't let perfect the enemy of good."

The "good":

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago

And you're the problem

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 16 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

THESE are the types of incumbents the DNC does not want primaried?! Holy hell.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 52 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

And this is why fascism is winning.

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[–] Venoregard@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

Slotkin is a NEOCON.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 56 points 20 hours ago (5 children)
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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

woke is what republicans use to attack whatever they dont like, if a democrat uses woke, they arnt really a DEMocrat, alot of them have a veneer of being dem or progressive but they often use buzzwords of right wingers to justify thier positions.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 39 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
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