Gotta love how he focuses only on a fraction of the Holocaust victims.
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I think most Americans don't even know what Romani are, and if they do, they probably know them by the g-slur without also knowing it's a slur.
Most people do. It’s taught in schools that it was only Jewish people and you have to take advanced classes or be lucky enough to have a teacher who cares to learn the truth.
that’s kinda wild for me to hear. I’ve gone to jewish schools and they definitely mentioned the gays and the disabled being exterminated as well. They don’t often mention Romani or communists tho…
That's pretty much how it's taught here too, California public schools
The quality probably varies by state and by district. Only learned about gays and the disabled in AP history. Some edgelord kid argued in class that it was the right thing to do for the disabled. This was in the 2000’s though and there’s a chance it’s improved since then.
The only ones that matter to the US as an entity. The only victims we weee formally taught about until college.
Bill Maher's existence is an insult to the entire human race
Comparing modern day fascism to historic examples of fascism, is always valid. Choosing to "leave it in it's own place", is a form of denial. You are ignoring the obvious signs of fascism that are right in front of you, because you refuse to compare them to past examples. Hitler was a fascist. Every single one of Trump's policies that are comparable to Hitler's, need to be recognized for what they are. This is what fascism looks like. Closing your eyes to that fact, is dangerous.
It’s iffy with me. It overshadows the homegrown history of this stuff from a country that inspired the Nazis. Jackson, McKinley, Wilson, Buchanan, Hoover. The list goes on. They’ve done a lot of the same things and have stronger parallels to Trump and yet they’re overlooked all the time in favor of being compared to fascists from across the pond.
Like I’ll see foreigners make the Hitler comparison with Bukele when Central America has no shortage of fascist assholes to compare him to.
Fascism is definitionally incoherent to most americans and even most leftists. It's just a synonym for people in government that I really don't like. If it's mild dislike, they're an asshole. Serious disagreements, they're "authoritarian". And if you really hate them, they're fascist.
History may rhyme but it doesn't repeat itself. Curious what your definition of "fascism" is. Don't say "capitalism in crisis". Give me something analytically useful.
Are you seriously doing the ‘anything you don’t like is fascism’ thing?
This post smells like magacommunism shit. I seen a lot of Hinkle followers on twitter say that people can't be fascists today because fascism could only exist within the period that it was invented.
My baseline definition of Fascism is anticommunism. A Fascist is someone who will do whatever they think is necessary to prevent communism. The definition of Fascism is incoherent is because Fascists just took Marxism and said "let's do the opposite of that". Like if you look at Mussolini's theories, Mussolini has the theory of Class Collaboration, whereas he believes that working class and capitalist class naturally benefit each other. Mussolini just took the Marxist concept of class conflict and then declared he believes the opposite.
A fascist is a person who sees the contradictions of capitalism and makes up alternative explanations for why these problems are occurring under capitalism. Not enough jobs? Blame immigrants. Planes crashing? Blame minorities. Citizens don't want to reproduce? Blame gay people or women. Problems occur under capitalism because of capitalist profit seeking. Fascists make up alternative explanations because they want to preserve the hierarchies. Fascists have decided that they like their position in the capitalist hierarchy and want to preserve that position.
So what makes Trump similar to Hitler? There is the obvious opposition to communism. There is also the desire to preserve and even reinforce the social hierarchies of capitalism. Hitler believed in a conspiracy theory called Jewish Bolshevism. Hitler did not just oppose communism or Jewish people individually, he believed that communism and Jewishness were the same. Hitler believed that communism was a Jewish plot and that the Soviet revolution was a Jewish revolution. In that communism was a threat to hierarchy of German Society, Hitler also believed that Jewish people were a threat to hierarchy of German Society. Trump exhibits many of these same behaviors. Trump has said many times that he believes that "radical left" politics is controlled by an external force. He believes that immigrants are a source of the opposition of the hierarchies of American society. Like Hitler attributed communism with Jewishness, Trump attributes "radical left" politics with immigrants. Thereby Trump thinks that he can remove "radical left" politics from the US by deporting immigrants. The Nazis also originally planned to deport Jewish people and Communists, but then later resorted to mass extermination.
I prefer to take a more scholarly approach to the definition. And I believe it is critically important to always push back on the idea that all it means is "whatever I don't like". Whenever someone responds with that kind of answer, I will post one of thousands of articles that actually attempt to legitimately define it. It's important to understand what it is, if we're expecting to stand up to it.
I absolutely love Larry David, Seinfeld, and Curb, but Larry is definitely a Zionist.
The Palestinian Chicken episode leaves no doubt, in my opinion, despite being funny.
ive been wondering if he is or not since he's been radio silent this whole time, but I kinda figured. especially since he's still buddies with Seinfeld. do you know which season that episode is? id be curious to watch it i dont think ive seen it
Yeah, and Seinfeld also has one or two "Israel" comments in the series.
Palestinian Chicken is Season 8, Episode 3. It's funny but obvious CW for Zionism and also for, uh, raceplay without giving any further spoilers.
My Palestinian friend loves the Palestinian Chicken episode. Mainly because of the "fuck me like you fucked my country" line.
I love that line.
I'm always like Hell yeah, girl, you tell his ass.
- Define Hitler as the definition of evil
- Make Hitlers evil sacred, sacrosanct
- It’s offensive to say anything is as bad as hitler
- Hitler == evil
- Not Hitler == not evil
- Anything we do == not evil
Bill Maher interviewed by Piers Morgan, cursed.
Bill Maher is a right wing Zionist who identifies as a Democrat on his talk show.
uhh, that's what most of the party is these days.
Bill Maher isn’t even Jewish
Funny how the "all religions are bad" people always happen to side with Israel when Push comes to shove
His mother's family is Jewish, but he didn't know that until he was already grown up. He was raised as a Catholic and made a career out of being an annoying atheist. So he's technically half Jewish but he only uses that for political purposes.
technically technically by Jewish law he’s full jewish (passes down maternally). But we have enough ghouls these days it seems I’m glad to not include billy
If you grew up your whole life without knowing you are Jewish, I’m sorry you are not Jewish
I read a great little indigenous anarchist zine that made a similar point: if you just found out you're 1/32 Anishinaabe and this came as a big shock or revelation, it's very inappropriate to suddenly claim it as an identity. You have no cultural connection and have never been embedded in the community. You probably don't even know anyone who does!
I agree completely about white people stealing indigenous valor, or whites in general.
But what about the many African Americans who don't grow up knowing their African roots because of slavery. Is it wrong if they take a DNA test and figure out they're part Nigerian and embrace that culture as an adult? I'm not debate bro-ing you, it's just a food for thought.
I'd defer to the Nigerian community on that, though of course the opinion would not be homogeneous. If the answer is different from what I gave above, I probably couldn't give you an abstract sociological justification for that difference without some lengthy conversations with people from both communities to better understand their relationship to their identity.
I personally would find it a bit strange if a white person found out they had Nigerian DNA and completely switched their entire wardrobe to traditional dress without knowing a single other Nigerian, but maybe that's just me.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-maher-compares-trumps-children-to-nazis/
Bill Maher trivializes the Holocaust by his own logic.
Larry David seems like the ultimate contrarian tbh. Like whoever is pissing him off atm he’s on the other side. His default is probably just NYC lib so i don’t think he’d ever become pro-trump, but I think he’d probably be a Zionist if like Ted danson decided to attend a pro Palestine rally
He's a zionist for sure. Season 8 of Curb's The Palestinian Chicken shows that quite well
Damn does it? Been a while since I saw that I guess.
It features half of the main cast protesting a Palestinian restaurant opening next door to a Jewish Deli and Larry being caught it the middle cause he really likes their chicken
I thought Funkhauser was playing the hardcore Zionist and Larry and Jeff were making fun of him the whole episode?
I do remember that scene, I don’t remember what it was about though. I thought it had something to do with him sleeping with the Palestinian girl
And he describes it as "better than hate sex! It's a whole other level! It's the deny your right to exist sex!'
Marty converted to Judaism and wouldn't take off his kippah but the tone is both wrong place for it and also ragging on him for converting a week or so ago and going so hard. Their indifference is shown as the typical moral indifference they generally have in any episode. The tone is vehemently zionist.
Trump = Bandera Bibi = Hitler.
I think it’s generally pretty safe to assume any non-radical Jew born between the creation of Israel and like 1985 is firmly a zionist. Older than that they didn’t get indoctrinated and younger than that they have a chance at deprogramming.
Trump wants to send Americans to prisons in El Salvador without due process. Bill Maher can go fuck himself.
Unless you are the most rabid bloodthirsty genocide lover imaginable you arent pro Israel enough
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