Again: switch to Linux already, use Libre Office or if you have to, google docs. Heck, install onlyoffice if you want it self hosted online, anything but Microsoft
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So what does this version of office actually do that my ancient copy of office 2003 doesn't, besides bog things down?
Its horrendous, my work windows laptop the amount of crap just loading at startup is getting stupid.
Most of my coworkers never turn their machine off, but I appreciate windows taking it's time. Warming up the work laptop in the morning is like a ceremony at this point. Solid 10-15 minutes to grab coffee, have a chat, check the feeds... Lol I wonder how much time/productivity is collectively wasted across the country from this crap.
Every time you want a break just relax and if the boss shows up just restart your computer. Tell them you're waiting for the system to boot after it froze or installed an update.
Yeah, straight back 15-20 years ☕😋
The invention of ssds was not to speed up computers, but to allow us to have more unwanted stuff autostart.
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I remember my morning routine around 2007-2008 in college before Linux was usable enough for me was turn on laptop, make coffee and have breakfast. Once the clickety clack stopped, check email or something. If it was still clacking away, get ready to head to university and it would have to wait. While I had XP on that thing it did not leave the house unless I was planning to hit the library to write a paper or something that would take more than an hour. It was not worth it to go through the startup procedure between classes. I needed the charger wherever I took it because 20% was lost to either starting up or traveling while on.
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"Nah man you just need a little more AI bullshit crammed into all your apps." -Microsoft, probably
They also make Edge launch at startup, it also never really closes when you "close" it.
Thats because of office I believe, since its using edge underneath.
Ah, the edgewebview2 crash. So consistent, so destructive.
This is why I'm glad I mostly just use it for teams, everything else is pretty much ssh from my main workstation (debian).
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And this is how adding code to Word 97 for 28 years without refactoring works.
Interestingly they did the same with Word 97: loaded Office at startup so the individual Office applications would seem to launch faster.
I'm forced to use Windows due to work and damn is it slow. File explorer feels so sluggish compared to Dolphin
Deleting files and folders in Windows is the one that gets me. It's so incredibly slow, and if you try to cancel it manages to take even longer "Cancelling...".
Yep, it's quickly becoming absolute garbage, I hate it more every day. Getting home back on Linux feels so much better.
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Install Linux. Use OpenOffice. Problem solved.
Don't use OpenOffice, it's nearly unmaintained, use LibreOffice
LibeOffice, OnlyOffice, all great apps
libreoffice. which has also had a similar feature for years.
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We have 64 bit multi-core CPUs unconstrained by clock speeds, RAM, bus bottlenecks, instructions sets, addressing modes, registers, or storage speeds. Monitors are beyond visual resolution, graphics are pumped out at a rate of zillions and gazillions of 32 bit pixels per second. How can any software be anything less than instantaneous these days? How can this modern bloated AI-dreamt high-level sludge code be as slow as my Commodore 64 booting GEOS from a 5.25" floppy?
The mouse button shouldn't even have time to bounce up from my finger releasing it and the screen should already be loaded.
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Of course it's slow, it's full of telemetry, spyware and built-in AI junk, it couldn't be any different
i'm just surprised HOW they are able to make text editor apps so heavy and slow. seriously, HOW??
There used to be a bug in ms word (idk if it's still there, it's been years since I last used any ms office app) where, if you had a separate printing server connected to a printer, and the printer was off but the server was online, it would try to fetch printer features, resulting in an unanswered request that would end up timing out. For some reason, word would completely freeze until the request timed out at 30s. No input worked, screen didn't refresh, window controls didn't work either. Completely frozen. And the worst part was that word would try to fetch printer features every time you clicked completely unrelated buttons. Want to export to PDF? Frozen for 30s. Want to save your document with a different name? First wait for 30s. Oh, you want to change the page size? You guessed it, 30s frozen.
Obligatory
They shouldn't have made it so bloated then. The 2003 version opened fairly quickly, even on a late 90's computer.
But now windows takes longer to boot and is too slow because ms office is always running in the background. +1 for reasons to use linux.
I'm constantly shocked how poorly Windows 11 runs on brand new high end hardware.
My current company uses brand new $1,500 HP enterprise grade laptops and they frequently freeze up, stutter, and get really hot from basic office work.
My old Debian servers I used to have there were running butter smooth with KDE Plasma on 12 year old hardware.
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I switched to LibreOffice more than a decade ago and I never missed Microsoft Office 🤷♀️
(EDIT: I don't mean this dogmatically, there are plenty of times I have had to compromise and go back to proprietary software, but LibreOffice really has successfully replaced Microsoft Office for me - it's just as feature-rich and reliable with a similar UI. Google Sheets has a few features that I like and which aren't in LibreOffice or MS Office, but I only use that for work when I need a collaborative sheet.)
Another libreoffice user here. Published a couple of academic works edited entirely on it, and no one complained about formatting errors. Things have improved a lot in the last years. We also have onlyoffice as another great alternative
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Coming soon to your neck of the woods... Copilot OS! Now with no Windows, only Copilot and a shitty embedded MS Edge. Everything you know as Windows is hidden behind an enforced Microsoft account which you cannot bypass or opt-out! Oh—and don't forget—you now need a PC with 64GB DDR6789 RAM, RBG+ chipset with tiny peener cache, 2 BRAIN TRACING GPUs, SUPER SECURE BOOT, TrustClock, Lie Detector, Bio-metric reader created by NSA, and their secret time bomb tracker that will secretly ghost all your data at a moments notice and require you to purchase the subscription to ALL STAR MEGA SUPER SONIC ULTRA CLOUD DATA WAREHOUSE. Oh, but hey, at least it's software upgradable....
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They will do this but then what option will they have left when they make it even more bloated and slow—since they now have this "extra room", as it were?
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Don't use Windows? Use Linux instead.
Just a thought.
Remember the other day when Microsoft boasted that 40% of their code is written by AI?
So their AI can't fix this issue?
Needs more vibe.
All of this while Excel is still stuck in 1997 in terms of functionality.
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It is so weird, I remember Office 97 loading very fast on Intel Pentium 3. Now suddenly it needs preloading on startup with 4-6 core PCs...
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Windows already takes far to long to load. I turn on my Linux PC and by time I stand up to get a coffee it's ready to go, then I remember it's Saturday and I won't be using Windows 11 all blessed day!
Didn't they start doing that decades ago? Did they stop at some point?
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OfficeClickToRun.exe is years and years old. This isn't a new thing at all.
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CTRL-ALT-DELETE - Task Manager - Click the little fuel gauge on the left hand side to access and disable startup items.
Copilot? Disabled.
Microsoft 365 Copilot? Disabled.
Teams? Disabled.
Microsoft To Do? Disabled.
OneDrive? Disabled.
Phone Link? Disabled.
Xbox? Disabled.
Just add one more to the list...
I vaguely remember that they were already preloading the Office DLLs way back in Windows 95 or XP days.
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shrugs in linux
Articles like this and the fact they're still trying to get recall back was reason enough for me to switch again.
The fuck? LibreOffice/any office suite in a browser is better than this.
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