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    cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/38448230

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    [–] Hupf@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] FreddyNO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    Separate ssd's lets go

    [–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

    Don't dual boot, flatten and rebuild.

    "B-but my gaaaaaamez!!!"

    [–] Sar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    Grub had/has this issue every time windows does a cumulative monthly update. Systemd doesn't have this issue.

    [–] 0xf@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

    While microsoft has admitted to bugs causing exactly this scenario. I personally have a stabe 6 months with dual-boot. And only updating cachos once a month or every two weeks has been fine. The server and rog ally exclusively runs linux.

    [–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 78 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Ah yes, the classic dual-boot woes

    [–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

    The supposed update that fixed it (windows update) broke it worse than ever, took me quite awhile to figure it out.

    [–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    This should not happen unless you booted into windows and ran an update.

    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Well, but you could update windows, then reboot but boot into linux. That means the windows update can't fully complete yet. Now if you start up your PC the next day and it boots into Windows by default, the update process will continue.

    [–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    Same thing. You'd have to boot into windows at some point.

    [–] mariusafa 5 points 2 days ago

    Ladies and gentleman we got em

    [–] todotoro@midwest.social 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    It always sucks dual booting in my experience. It’s an exercise in balancing maintenance and disk space management between two operating systems. You’re always likely patching if you actively switch between them.

    I think it’s usually better to choose one and virtualize the other. I’d rather choose Linux + Windows VM than the other way around.

    [–] Klajan@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Sadly VMs don't work with the Anti-Cheat rootkits, one of the only reasons I still have Windows

    [–] todotoro@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

    Yea, I figured thats why most people end up dual booting. It’s not a judgment or anything.

    FWIW, I get around this by either using Geforce Now to stream the game that uses it or simply not playing the game lol. It’s not worth dealing with Windows for me.

    My friends and I don’t usually play the kind of games that use Anti-Cheat so its not an issue.

    [–] Colloidal@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    I haven't had dual boot problems since the early 2010s. I don't even know what I'm doing right.

    [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Probably installing on separate drives.

    [–] Colloidal@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

    Nope. Only have the one. I usually create a separate /boot partition and use UEFI, I think.

    [–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I have Linux and Windows on separate drives.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Me too, the windows drive is in the garage

    [–] bluesheep@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I that why I never relate to this issue? I've had a dual boot setup for years by now and have always been able to choose either windows or Linux at startup, but they are on separate drives

    Yeah, Windows has a habit of borking bootloaders whenever it’s on a partitioned drive.

    [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Gaming. Want a quick round in a pause? Mount error: go boot Windows to fix it. But i have multiple tools and sessions and stuff open...

    And Windows still can't handle anything reliable.

    [–] mittorn@masturbated.one 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    @MonkderVierte @bluesheep ntfs? just use chkufsd binary from paragon mounter apk (there is static x86 binary in assets). And do not use ntfs-3g, it is slow and almost abadonned.

    [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Oh, right, i never used the new ntfs driver. So it's only a bad memory.

    [–] mittorn@masturbated.one 1 points 1 day ago

    @MonkderVierte new ntfs driver sometimes might be unstable (usually chkufsd helps fix some errors)
    Also there is fuse Paragon UFSD version (you may use ufsd binaries from paragon mounter on x86)
    But ntfs-3g utilities sometimes cannot fix even trivial journal errors

    [–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    With super cheap SSD’s and motherboards with multiple m.2 slots, there’s rarely an excuse not to have different drives anymore. Laptops might be an exception.

    [–] Funky_Beak 1 points 1 day ago

    Some gaming laptops come with a second nvme slot. Mine does and I did exactly this. Was wayyy simpler.

    [–] xia 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    The trick is to have a second EFI partition. One for windows to destroy, and one for linux to enjoy.

    [–] Rin@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

    Good old switcharoo

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    If you're lucky, it's still on the disk and you just need to "repair" the bootloader.

    If not, well, that traumatised Mr Incredible pastiche might be at least a circle of hell too pleasant.

    You have backups, right?

    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    There's no way Windows would just access non-readable partition, and do anything with it, let alone delete it. No operating system does this.

    Replacing the bootloader is of course much more likely, but the general rule is that if you can manage to install Linux, you probably can follow basic instructions to fix GRUB or whatever your bootloader is.

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    There's no way Windows would just access non-readable partition

    I knew that was true back in the day, but I haven't tried dual booting in a long, long time. Also, I wouldn't put it past Microsoft's current incarnation to "accidentally" decide that that "empty" partition would be great for virtual memory and the hibernation image.

    [–] Klajan@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

    Oh Windows knows this is the EFI partition, there is a flag for that. Windows just doesn't care when it decides to nuke your bootloader with its own...

    And yes, it's still happening...

    [–] sykaster@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

    Installing Linux is so simple nowadays that fixing the bootloader is a level higher now

    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    To be fair, windows does save its license key on ROM. It writes to the read-only memory. So it could.

    [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Can that actually happen like this? If Windows killed the bootloader wouldn't that mean that you couldn't boot into Kubuntu either? Or can it somehow kill the bootloader when the PC is turned off?

    [–] lime@feddit.nu 13 points 2 days ago

    ish. if your boot priority is set to windows first and it decides it needs to repair the bootloader it can wipe other oses from the boot order.

    [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    What definitely did happen to me is I booted into windows, shut down, on the next startup there was no grub menu, just instant boot into windows. (Separate physical drives).

    [–] art@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I constantly tell people the dangers of dual booting. They don't listen and then it breaks.

    [–] glorkon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I constantly tell people the remedy of the dangers of dual booting, using a separate drive for Linux. They sometimes listen and then have a dual boot system that doesn't break.

    Eh, Windows has broken grub before even if it's on a separate drive, some Windows update did that last year.