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[–] Bldck@beehaw.org 125 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)
  • Operation Condor: right wing dictators in South America repressing leftists with the support of Americans and possibly the French
  • Gladio: Post WWII Allied Forces and then NATO intelligence operations to delegitimize and destabilize leftist groups in Eastern Europe from end of WWII through the 1990s
  • Ranch Hand: US led effort to destroy the foliage and agricultural land in Vietnam to deprive the Viet Cong of food and places to stage attacks
  • PBSuccess: CIA led coup d’état in Guatemala at the request of the United Fruit Company (now Chiquita)
  • Phoenix Program: CIA led effort to infiltrate the Viet Cong
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thx. I def recommend reading some articles that get into the depravity of some of these. Outside of the at least half a million people killed in the above operations, the coups, tortures, dissappearances, and entire communities wiped out is staggering.

Some more short blurbs :

  • Starting in the 1970s, a CIA-backed coalition of right wing governments in Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia and Brazil, began Operation Condor, a campaign of political repression and state terror involving intelligence operations and assassination of opponents, with the stated aim of "eliminating Marxist subversion." Victims included dissidents and leftists, union and peasant leaders, priests and nuns, students and teachers, intellectuals and suspected guerillas. An estimated 30,000 to 80,000 leftists or sympathizers were killed. 1
  • From the 1950s-90s, the CIA and NATO ran a series of clandestine networks, headquartered in Rome, Italy called Operation Gladio. Its purpose was supplying aid (primarily money and weaponry) to right wing paramilitaries to attack left-wing movements, and carry out assassinations and bombings, as well as funnel money to centrist political parties. It had operations in Belgium, Finland, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, The Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Turkey, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and Austria. In Italy, the group had 600+ members, and carried out car bombings during Italy's years of lead. In Germany, it included former Nazi SS members—Staff Sgt. Heinrich Hoffman, Lt. Col. Hans Rues, and Lt. Col. Walter Kopp. CIA weapons caches are still being discovered in all the countries above.
  • From the 1940s - 60s, the CIA provided an average of $5 million annually in covert aid towards financially supporting centrist Italian governments and using the awarding of contracts to weaken the Italian Communist Party's hold on labor unions. It was also involved in bombings and assassinations as a part of Operation Gladio.
  • Between 1963 and 1973, The US dropped ~388,000 tons of napalm bombs in vietnam, compared to 32,357 tons used over three years in the Korean War, and 16,500 tons dropped on Japan in 1945. US also sprayed over 5 million acres with herbicide, in Operation Ranch Hand, in a 10 year campaign to deprive the vietnamese of food and vegetation cover. 1,2
  • In 1967, the CIA helped South Vietnamese agents identify and then murder alleged Viet Cong leaders operating in villages, in the Phoenix Program. By 1972, Phoenix operatives had executed between 26,000 and 41,000 suspected NLF operatives, informants and supporters.1
  • In 1965, The CIA overthrew the democratically elected Indonesian leader Sukarno with a military coup. The CIA had been trying to eliminate Sukarno since 1957, using everything from attempted assassination to sexual intrigue, for nothing more than his declaring neutrality in the Cold War. His successor, General Suharto, aided by the CIA, massacred between 500,000 to 1 million civilians accused of being communist, in the Indonesian mass killings of 1965-66. The US continued to support Suharto throughout the 70s, supplying weapons and planes.
[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Shhhh they still don't know radio free Asia is a CIA project.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Is this real or some kind of joke? I'm just now learning about all of this and am almost traumatized honestly.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Radio Free X" news outlets are generally all US State Department propaganda designed to discredit and de-legitimize their geopolitical adversaries, famously the USSR and PRC, but also Cuba, etc. It's all very real.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago

No joke. Same goes for Radio Free Europe and Voice of America, among others. They’re US state propaganda outlets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Agency_for_Global_Media

I try to point people toward developing real media literacy.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh dude the CIA has their fingers in soooooooooo much shit in the era between WWII and.. now? It's all published on their web site.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Do other countries not condemn us ultimately for this stuff? Like Russia invaded another nation and the whole world 'sanctioned' them economically, why has no one sanctioned US for these mass injustices?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US has hundreds more millitary bases around the world than any other country. It dominates the world financially via Imperialism, it intentionally underdevelops countries in the global south in order to have them reliant on US food exports so the US gets cheap imports.

Some countries do call out the US Empire for what it is. Palestine, the former USSR, the PRC, Cuba, DPRK, South Africa, Iran, the Russian Federation, all countries the US Empire thoroughly demonizes and propagandizes against as much as it can.

The good news is that the Empire is crumbling, so hopefully we can overthrow it and replace it with a Socialist system.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US has held hegemonic dominance over at least the western world economicly, culturally, and militarily for the past few decades. It's really hard to go against that so a lot of countries got on board. Some got really rich because of it.

I think of it this way. When your ready about Roman history, you usually see a map that shows the reach of their empire, but not really the boundaries of what you'd consider the core of the empire. Those maps show the extent of their political and military reach.

So just imagine how history books will show the American Empire. The US has hundreds of military bases, everywhere. Its a global empire. It'd be impressive if it weren't so awful. I mean, can you imagine what life would be like if you lived in a country that has a resource the US wants? It must be a nightmare.

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago

All of the "radio free X" are CIA outlets.

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[–] kortex64@jlai.lu 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gladio targeted all of Europe, not just the East. Remember that the Communist parties were strong in the west too, especially in Italy and France. Hell, they were part of the government under De Gaulle as members of the coalition.

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[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

How...How have I gone so long without hearing about any of this at all? Like I always hear we are evil, but the specifics are chalked up to 'cold war hysteria/propaganda'

Consider me spooked, and many thanks for the awareness boost OP!

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

US history programs are 95% propaganda so it’s not surprising.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Same with US state, NGO, and corporate media.

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[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Unitedestadian has long been the term used to describe USA citizens by the Spanish-speaking population of the Americas. Not their fault the country picked a length intro title and a vague region as their country name. Imagine if the UK was the UKE, United Kingdom of Europe, and called themselves Europeans by default. The other 90% would be pissed and make their own names, no?

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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Instead of 'american' or USian or others, why not Yankee? It has historical significance to the united states, originated a a pejorative, and the south hates it. Perfect

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

USian here, and totally agree. The willful ignorance is stunning to behold.

But help me with my potential ignorance here - is this meme also suggesting that ordinary citizens of other developed countries know about these things? Do high school history and social studies classes have a day or a week that discuss US imperialism & shady dealings of recent decades?

My impression has always been that people in other countries read about this awful shit in the same places I do online, and that the differences in mainstream knowledge are about much more basic stuff like coal and climate change being bad while healthcare is good.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Do high school history and social studies classes have a day or a week that discuss US imperialism & shady dealings of recent decades?

No, that's the entire curriculum. Kinda impossible not to properly discuss a country's hystory without mentioning the US when the US has been fucking with it

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[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

How they will teach about the military dictatorship era of my country without mentioning Operation Condor?

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

A lot of this is really old so it's the kind of thing my parents casually mentioned when I was growing up.

But then we learn the details at University, either in history classes or more broadly in any kind of discussion of colonialism, neoimperialism, etc.

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Belgian here. Nope. No idea what they're on about.

Austrian here - 1st question: no idea. 2nd question: no Same here, US imperialism was never discussed as such in my history lessons during the late 80ies and 90ies. Would read about these atrocities only mich later, maybe in more "official" sources only if you're a student of history or politics and such.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (12 children)
[–] TOModera@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Citizen of the United States

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, Dude, American is not the preferred nomenclature. USian, please.

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[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

First time seeing "United Statesian" idek what to say besides I hope to never encounter it again

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Well, you guys should have come up with a better demonym that didn't belong to the entire continent(s)

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I prefer usonian, but ppl seem to hate that even worse. Much shorter than saying "US citizen", and also not going along with the US cooption of the term america.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I find Burgerlander just rolls off your tongue easier

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

I’ll also accept Burgerstani & Statesian.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

I, too, wish to never encounter an unitedstatian

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Speaking as a...USian?...many of us know about these already and are ashamed of them.

[–] Keilik@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can assure you that you are giving the general public far too much credit unfortunately.

Remember, the #1 search on google on Election Day was “did Joe Biden drop out”

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

26k people killed in the Phoneix Program alone.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago

People also forget what they did and continue to do in the marshall islands and their literal apartheid there.

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