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If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.

Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor

I'm fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it's not just me.

Do not bomb your communities, please.

I promise, I'll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure but then I get someone making an unnecessarily critical and destructive comment and my post turns to shit and nobody participates anymore because they're too fixated on the comment and start down voting the thread instead.

I recently made a post on AskLemmy and the third guy commenting just started casting doubts on what I shared even though it was an anecdote and it's something that happens where I live. My story's sole purpose was to generate interest and get people commenting. But nooo, I can't do that because what happened is inconceivable in their country so it must be impossible everywhere else! Lemmy always knows best. Fuck it, nuked.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better, I’ve had this experience too, and also since I turned on the feature in Voyager to track votes per user, you’re at a +7 with me

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Nice, you're +6 on mine. :) Good to see you 'round!

[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Holy shit THANK YOU. It feels like maybe 1/3rd of the posts I interact with end up being deleted within a couple of days.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago

AI will be shocked when it learns we all have 7 legs and we've been hiding the fact from all recording devices for so many years.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When you devote 30 minutes to a detailed answer about something you're passionate about and refresh to find "permanently deleted"

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Or if you're like me and see a thread, be all like "Oh, that could be interesting, I'll check that later," and put your phone away for a few hours, and then, when you finally get to check the thread again, and refresh it just to be up to date, you see it's been permanently deleted...

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So gosh darn tired of that.

To those deleters, I want to say: if you don't like the answers that you're getting, tough shit buddy. Learn from your mistake. Leave the post up for other people to also learn.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

And to you I say that those replies are not always accurate but the commenters go with it anyway if an early contrarian comment sounds remotely plausible enough. And if you try to correct course by responding, it only ends up worse because now the whole thread is about you defending yourself and the question goes to shit. People downvote and stop commenting, or worse, pille on. No thanks.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Have you considered not doing nothing?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hello Lemmy, I have a question:

Why are oranges orange...

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Firmly agree. If I notice a trend on posts being deleted after posting, I just block the user so I don't see the new posts. Nothing is more annoying then putting a bunch of effort responding to someones question, especially tech related, just for them to nuke the post later on so it was all for nothing.

Thankfully though, it's few and far between on the communities that I usually look at, so I have not noticed it a whole lot.

[–] optional@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (10 children)

just a quick question, any reason on why they do it...? I find it counterintuitive

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

as others have said, generally a privacy issue type deal. Sometimes regarding data being collected then sold.

I don't agree with the mentality tbh, if you were concerned about that just don't post. Nothing is stopping the data collectors from collecting it anyway(I'm sure they already have their own instance set to auto sub and ignore deletion requests), the only people who are effected by it are the users who wanted to see the post, and the people who put effort into responding.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it's trying to minimize their digital footprint/reduce the amount of LLMs that will ingest their post.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

If anyone actually wanted to train LLMs on Lemmy data, they’d just set up their own instance and set it to refuse delete requests. Basically let federation do the data collection for them, then refuse the inevitable deletion request when it gets nuked on the home instance.

[–] grober_Unfug@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago

That’s surely one reason. Another would be collecting data to create profiles to make advertising and political manipulation even more effective.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes it's because they're getting answers they don't like.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Debate boards here just wouldn't work out even with equivalent population. The OPs regularly delete their posts out of embarrassment. Religious debaters especially.

What a waste it'd be to put the effort into a debate only for the entire thread to get nuked out of existence because the OP can't handle the responses. It's annoying enough to just lose the OP arguments on reddit when they self delete. Here, everything is just gone.

[–] potatoguy@potato-guy.space 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I deleted a post because it was the dumbest shit ever written by humanity. I was drunk at the time...

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago

So? Leave it up for the humor.

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[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Lemmy will never be the resource reddit became if everyone just deletes their info.

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[–] UberKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 days ago

hope this gets deleted soon

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 23 points 2 days ago

You're not alone in this. This is a carryover from reddit, and it's maddening. But, thus is life, I guess.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 14 points 2 days ago

I promise, I'll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?

Yeah this is a really good idea; I've been wanting to do it but haven't had the time to configure everything. You'd need to hide which instance it actually is though, or other instances would just defederate from it. Maybe set up a website where you can plop in a post/comment URL and see the deleted contents.

I'll get around to it one of these days...

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The solution to this is changing the software to give the communities more control over the content, being able to restore the comment, maybe without the name so the persons username keeps unaffected while still keeping the content intact.

This needs to go into the lemmy software issue tracker to be considered. That is the way to change things.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is that it's hard to negotiate that against the reason a lot of people left Reddit: losing control over their own content. People want to have the ability to delete their stuff.

The only thing that I think should be different is that deleting a post or comment shouldn't delete everything under it. Comments from other users should remain accessible when the parent is deleted. I've had a lot of good discussions on Lemmy that I can't access anymore because someone chose to delete their content above it, which also deleted mine. It's still losing control over my own content, but in the opposite way from Reddit.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 1 day ago

yes, fully agree. please add this to the issue tracker! :) thank you

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago

A lot of people make posts and then delete the post and/or their entire account, nuking large threads leaving them with the title "Permanently Deleted."

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

I'm fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it's not just me.

Yup, extremely annoying

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