It's weird how Trump fans feel so justified about it all. They can look at people being completely disappeared, to never be heard from again and say, "Hell Yea!". It's not just evil, it's stupid evil. They don't understand that if they can do that to someone else, it can happen to them, and they like to march around with weapons...guess who's next. True conformity can't be achieved with those that believe in freedom.
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It's never been about conviction or honest concern about "freedom" etc. It's been a grift for a loooong time - the only difference is that the grifters are in the White House now.
I listen to a podcast that's been dealing with Alex Jones and Infowars for a long time. Of course that isn't as hot now as it was, say, 10 years ago, but they make it interesting. One of their recurring statements is that Jones used to cheer for values that his current hero - Mango Mussolini - is diametrically opposed to, which kinda proves that he never believed in any of that anyhow. He's just a grifter.
And then they go back in history and find out that Jones himself was influenced by earlier radio grifters. Rightwing media outrage has a looong tradition in the USA, and it's fair to say that it's never been honest.
Believing anything that comes out of teir mouths is like believing that raspberry flavored chapstick represents actual raspberries and their flavor.
They like suffering for some reason. They’ve been told they’re victims for such a long time - not that their own choices helped put them where they are - that it’s everyone else’s fault they aren’t living the American Dream. So they lash out like angry toddlers and take happiness from someone else’s suffering, they actively seek to increase it. Doesn’t matter if it’s taking away LGBTQ rights and actively encouraging discrimination against them, ripping kids away from brown-skinned parents, or letting women die thanks to the lack of abortion services. So because Billy Bob can’t afford a lifted F150, the government won’t let him have a full-auto AR variant, and he can’t stand a school that might read his kids a story about a gay couple, everyone else has to suffer worse to make his lot look better.
But don't worry, the guillotines will only be used on the bad people.
I want politicians focused on who they can help more than who they can hurt. Like fundamentally, ignoring all of modern politics, thats what healthy societies are supposed to look like.
That's why the Zoran Mamdani Campaign is so successful
It still works that way in a lot of places. The US has definitely lost its way a long time ago though.
How sweet that you think the US ever had its way.
Skipping the obvious bullshit of the last 25 years, there was Anita Hill, and Rodney King, Reaganomics, Reagan racism, Nancy "I don't give a fuck about this until it affects me" Reagan, then Kent State and our military just straight up murdering our kids, Nixon, CIA killings of prominent activists, murder of a president, McCarthyism, that whole anti-immigration/racism era where white Americans rammed god and their view of patriotism in everything (people today STILL think those things were there since the beginning), union and strike busting, child labor, failed reconstruction era, more president's killed, "compromises" over fucking slavery, wannabe King Jackson not giving a shit about other human beings nor any possible check on power or anyone else's ideas, a fucking Vice President shot a guy (the first time), begging the first president to be King, and failed attempts at presidency and democracy before that (pre-constitution).
I really glossed over a lot too.
This is a great summary but you made me lol with "(the first time)"
Gotta give VP Dick his credit where due.
Minor omission: exterminating the people who had the unmitigated gall to be living here already.
Which time?
There's so much. Another one I learned more about in recent years is the horrible testing on Puerto Ricans, including the sterilizations.
For anyone interested, today there are excellent graphic novels about some of these topics, like Kent State and Puerto Rico Strong. I would encourage people as these are excellent ways to learn more about these topics. Some local libraries have them sometimes.
I tried to read it to the tune of we didn't start the fire, and it kinda works you just gotta put some flavour in it and you can be the next weird Al
Honest to god, the U.S. propoganda sphere is unmatched. So much of that list is fully kept out of American schools, and the few bits they acknowledge are so whitewashed and sanitized that we could realistically call them fictional accounts. The average American legitimately does not know half of the fucked up things this country has done, which is why most of them still think the problem is Donald Trump, and not all of U.S. society.
Perhaps the greatest kicker is that Americans will criticize regimes like Russia and China for brainwashing their citizens with a straight face, so blissfully unaware of their own conditioning.
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From their perspective that's what they're doing though. The means to help their kind just involves more collateral damage and what ends up indistinguishable from targeted pain.
...human empathy is not a team sport...
It's a co-op pve
As I grow older, I find pvp less enticing, and long for a helpful community. PvE is the GOAT
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Is it just me or does “white people twitter” now have a whole different meaning with Nazi Musk owning it….
Now you freaking mention it...
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Newspapers: We can't say things because they might be misconstrued and we could get in trouble for even insinuating anyone is to blame for anything.
This shit: Look at this terrorist motherfucker right here that we hate.
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Lol saying "radical democrat" is like saying "radical centrist"
i'm old enough to remember when they called quakers terrorists and saddam lovers for being against the iraq war.
That's been a minute.
I remember kids in my school wearing shirts with tanks running over Saddam with the caption, "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up." I remember how happy my mother was about it.
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AOC is basically the anti-Trump: it's like she has to be on the correct, moral side of every issue...
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