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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"The Left" includes an incredibly vast spectrum of beliefs, movements, and ideologies, including some that are repugnant to me (e.g. vanguardism).

“Vanguardism” as a pejorative, that’s a new one. Either this is the sort of anarchist who thinks a group getting big enough to need an org chart constitutes fascism, or this is some Vaushite that just picked a random bit of ML jargon out of a hat and slapped an -ism on it.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have an anarchist coworker who uses the term pejoratively. He regularly rails against AES whenever the topic of capitalism or socialism come up, and even quoted Zizek about how dangerous true believers in the liberation of the proletariat are.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago

"take it from a cynical opportunist like me, you don't want anybody in your movement who isn't a cynical opportunist" —Zizek

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago

An anarchist who doesn't believe in liberation is a liberal in denial

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've never heard the term "Vanguardism" until Vicky 3 started using it as a generic descriptor for Marxism-Leninism so you can be like 80% sure someone who uses the term is a Paradox nerd or heard it from a Paradox nerd

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

I literally only play that game because I love the silly things you can do in it to make communism happen. Look, playing the USSR in an economic simulator or a Great Patriotic War game is awesome. But ahistorical revolution paths are even better. I swear, playing Vicky 3, is the only time I can ever get myself to admit that maybe the USSR shouldn't be held up as the be all and end all of communism, maybe the symbols of modern ML ideals don't need to be specifically Soviet symbols, maybe vanguardism doesn't have to be the exact words "all power to the soviets". (Most of the time, I'll say things about us being stuck in 1917, but... I'm worse than the comrades I'm criticizing. I still call myself a Bolshevik, for one, and I do tend to say "soviet" when I mean "council". Among other terminology from Soviet times that hasn't made any sense to still use since '91.)

Point is, I generally only play that game because I like its "vanguardism", and I always choose that path over any other leftist path. (As much as twelve year old me would have enjoyed the fantasy that anarchist paths in these games tend to offer.) And I do like the term in the context the game uses it in, and the context it's started to take on in RL politics.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hate liberals

Can't even offer the usual liberal solution of "we should sanction them into the dirt and embargo them", no we just need to show those Israelis pictures of a Palestinian mother crying about her kid that got turned into pieces with a hellfire missile

I'm sure that will move the people who actively chant things like "the schools in Gaza are empty because there are no more children"

[–] miz@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago

if you show pictures of Palestinian suffering to a zionist they will start masturbating

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

much like their heroes the Bolsheviks took over the people's revolution in 1917

Sounds like they're doing the right thing then, since the Bolsheviks won that revolution.

I've seen PSL shut down protests by convincing people that the protest is "over".

made-it-the-fuck-up

[–] jack@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It means they showed up to a protest where PSL did all the work and was mad they weren't handed the mic when they stormed the stage

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A couple years back PSL helped organize a Palestine solidarity march here, working with local non-communist MENA groups. There was a planned marching route, a little street fair beforehand, and a lot of collaboration with most of the active communist orgs in the area. It was an opportunity for us commies to get together and try and mend some of the party divides, and also to show the MENA orgs that communists were reliable allies. It took a lot of convincing to get them on board.

Part way through the march a black bloc came and started smashing windows, assaulting onlookers for the crime of having their cameras out, smashing cars, just being an absolute menace.

The PSL organizers did call the march short and ended the "official" event but encouraged people who wanted to stay to go to the nearby student-run event while we tried to smooth things over with the MENA groups.

The anarchists did not want to follow the plan. They did not care about the solidarity-building purposes of this march. They wanted to smash a starbucks, and post on Instagram about how they owned a bunch of tankies.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Most self-aware liberal that thinks they are left.

None of the topics of transphobua, impeeialism, etc were mentioned in the comment chain above this btw. They just decided to be dishonest and drop a pile of substantial issues and say, "so this is what you think is stupid shit!?" when they hadn't said anything like that. And, thus, they created a thread of arguing about stupid shit, i.e. attacking people with things nobody said and seeking conflict over things like vanguardism for no reason.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

OP’s thinking struggle sessions about calling everyone in the community a Trot and this lib thinks it’s a dogwhistle

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also very telling that they think "being actively transphobic" and "not being blindly racist against China" are equally bad things.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

no, they think those are the same thing

[–] miz@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago

authoritarian

there it is, the word that lets you know it's all vibes underlaid by western chauvinism. the media told me their government isn't legitimate, and why would they lie about somewhere so far away?

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Imagine thinking that showing Israeli Zionists the humanity of Palestinians will change their mind. They literally have telegram channels where they post videos of people getting killed and family grieving and write a caption like "Islamonazis owned"

Edit: I probably would have said "incompetent" rather than "weak" because that's not a great term to use in this scenario, but their objection is still ridiculous because shitflinging in public does absolutely make groups look disorganized and the practice should therefore be banned.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

The good news is this dipshit will be too busy flinching at shadows to get in anybody's way IRL

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

the boksheviks took over the people’s revolution in 1917

Someone reply to this mfer with Finnish Bolshevik’s entire back catalogue and let’s call it a day

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

Wreckers plotting wrecking, typical reddit

[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

Authoritarianism of the proletariat!

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 7 months ago

Last notions of spontaneous revolution should die in 1905 but alas

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