misdemeanor? so like, murder is illegal, murdering multiple with a truck is kind of legal
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It is equal in legality as throwing one sub at an ICE agent.
true dat
What if I run over a bunch of ICE agents while riding a submarine sandwich?
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Meanwhile a couple of parents in North Carolina are facing manslaughter charges after they let their kids walk to the grocery store while they guided them over the phone and one of them got hit and killed by a car.
wtf
So, if you actually read the article, it says he claimed that the steering wheel locked up on him, but the NTSB stated that he suffered from severe fatigue. Maricopa county prosecutors said there wasn't enough evidence to press any felonious charges.
So, at best, this would be a case of manslaughter (which is a felony), but there's no conclusivity on whether it was with malicious intent or premeditated.
So no, he's not a murderer. He negligently fell asleep at the wheel.
If u drive while being impaired (by whatever) ur a piece of shit and if u kill anyone doing that (except like suffering a heart attack or something not foreseeable) ur a murderer in my mind.
Fortunately, the law doesn't operate on what's in your mind.
Murder implies premeditation. The prosecutor and judge didn't see evidence of premeditation.
A lot of people use the word "murder" in a colloquial sense and not a strictly legal one. Further some jurisdictions have degrees of murder where other jurisdictions would use manslaughter. I'm assuming the person you responded to meant the lesser charges.
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Failing to maintain a vehicle is an impairment. Also "my steering wheel locked up" is not a reason to not hit the brakes.
As someone who is a master of operating under what should be severe impairment I agree, being awake for 48 just leaves me vaguely slow when I talk. Also folks need to know their fucking limits, I refused to drive while I had food poisoning because I couldn't think and also I didn't want to shit myself in my car.
It doesn't seem to have been done intentionally, so at best it's involuntary manslaughter. They think he may have fallen asleep or something.
There is no law and order in the US. If you want to diddle kids, just operate a Joint commission accredited troubled teen facility. There are literally zero requirements, and you can sue anyone who questions you into poverty!
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Remember people, if you wanna kill someone, make sure you're in a car! If you're lucky you might not even get a jail sentence!
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Insane. My friend is serving 6 months because he fought back against his violent abusive dad one time. This guy gets 6-12 months after killing 2 and injuring 11? Wtf is this system?
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This is good. It gives the grieving families a year to plan how to get the bastard once he’s out of jail.
Obviously run his ass over in a Walmart parking lot.
It's ok, none of the people killed or hurt were billionaires, so like.. they guy barely broke any real laws worth worrying about.
Sounds fair. I'd expect me smeared on the road by a truck is probably worth a couple of hours of community service. At least a couple. Imagine a beautiful Lady. That's at least a couple of months depending on the make-up. 2 cyclists and 11 injured yeah that should carry some prison. Specially if it was a nice Walmart bike with shimano part upgrades. Amazon electric... Forget it, that's at least 25 to life. But only if it had a fancy range extender. Otherwise maybe 15 years?
Hopefully they learn their lesson and doesn't become a repeat offender.
I'd like to know whether that means he can drive for the 2nd hald of his prison term.
Prosecutor needs to be tried for treason. At the very least there needs to be a permanent license suspension.
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for international context here: this is (one of) the hottest major city in the ~~country~~ world; we have year round bike weather. This happens all the time unfortunately.
The hottest city != Bike weather?
They meant to say "bike melting weather"
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It's really cool how judges would say that all human lives are equal but also closely match them to their net worth...
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