385
submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Elon Musk has indicated that X, formerly known as Twitter, is preparing to charge all users for accessing the platform.

The X owner said erecting a paywall around the business would ward off the bots, or automated accounts, that have become a bugbear for Musk.

Speaking in a meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, the Tesla CEO and world’s richest person suggested that X was going to charge its user base. Currently, Twitter only charges users for its subscription service X Premium, which offers perks such as a verified account checkmark and costs $11 a month in the US for iPhones and £11 in the UK.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] zockersanftmut@lemmy.world 166 points 11 months ago

He's so bad at running Twitter I'm starting to think it's his goal to ruin the brand. Don't know what for but surely he can't be this dumb?

[-] flipthetube@lemmy.world 88 points 11 months ago

He is. He’s your average internet troll that made a few lucky decisions in the past.

And don’t call me Shirley.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 79 points 11 months ago

By "lucky decisions" do you mean "born into wealth"?

[-] flipthetube@lemmy.world 74 points 11 months ago

His best decision to date, yes.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

What, you didn't pick "Born to emerald mine magnate" at the character creator? It really is the only logical choice, you know.

[-] xeekei@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

Didn't wanna spend 5 hours at the char creation screen so I just clicked "randomise".

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

Twitter gave regular people too much power. The rich moved to destroy that power.

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 26 points 11 months ago

Anyone paying attention would notice this Pattern, they will be trying to fuck over the fediverse as well. Unfiltered social media gives the poors too much opportunity to revolt

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

they will be trying to fuck over the fediverse as well.

Will be trying? Have you already forgotten Threads?

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago

Threads happened so soon after the fediverse spun up it was like a contingency plan put into motion

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Kichae@kbin.social 30 points 11 months ago

Look, if Elon was trying to ruin Twitter, it would be flourishing right now.

His backers maybe wanted to destroy the brand and the service, and they chose the right guy for the job if so, but the only thing Elon does is seek praise and attention.

[-] 567PrimeMover@kbin.social 41 points 11 months ago

Not quite related to the conversation, but I think it would be funny if a CEO tried to run a business into the ground but ended up being the most successful and beloved CEO in the company's history.

"I know, if I enact a 4 day workweek, nobody will have time to get anything done"

"Okay so that didn't work... Maybe if I increase staffing, give everyone a raise, the overhead will eat into the company profits and nobody will want to invest!"

"Um... I'll have the dev team drag their heels on product release! Nobody will want to buy our product if we release a month late. Heck, maybe if we wait until the devs say it's ready we won't release anything at all! This plan is sure to work!"

[-] Kichae@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago

That certainly would be springtime for them.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why couldn’t he be? There is ample evidence that, yes, he is this dumb and he’d had less press/more handling before. Remember, there was a different story about him. News outlets love their stories. The story was Musk = quiet, nerdy genius billionaire that was gonna save the world and Zuckerberg and Bezos were the quintessential villains in the press. Now that Zuckerberg rebranded with “Meta” and 2016 is in the distant past now, we hear much less about him and Bezos got a huge sympathy injection by getting divorced (and, I’m not even sure I’m remembering this properly, but the last thing I heard about him was his divorce and his ex wife getting half of everything).

Around this time, the pandemic hit and musk became the richest man alive, the really dumb shit he was saying and doing was more visible (and embraced by the right) and boom. All credibility was gone, all the stories from Paypal and SpaceX about his childishness and need to be corralled became common knowledge, and his story changed. The media had a new story, a new target, and it was a profitable one. Put the microscope on him and he kept fucking up. Then he kept doing douchey shit, bought twitter, and from there the dumpster fire of this really public failing became the flash point to display his stupidity.

My point is, he’s always been his dumb, given all the current evidence. It just wasn’t the story for a while. Now it is. So it seems like a new quality.

[-] fuzzybee@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

I haven't heard much about Bezos since he sent Shatner to space and then was a total dick and cut him off during his post flight interview.

His ex, on the other hand, has been taking her half of the divorce settlement and giving hundreds of millions to good causes.

Best thing that man ever did was divorce her.

Excuse me, I think today's Amazon package has arrived.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (16 replies)
[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 131 points 11 months ago

Let me guess. Paying a subscription will not mean the end of ads.

I have been wondering for a while what he would have to do to finally crash twitter, I think this may be it.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

It won't be the end of bots either, it means less users overall, and conversations can be influenced with 100 bots rather than 100,000.

Small timers won't pay that, but corporation, PACs, and the wealthy won't flinch at that kind of advertising budget.

And now Musk gets paid for them, he'll never mention bots again.

[-] rynzcycle@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago

No, but it will be the end of his advertising revenue. Does that count?

[-] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 11 months ago

I'm convinced he's ruining Twitter on purpose. He's still pissed he was forced into buying it.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 24 points 11 months ago

I like the theory that he's killing it to prevent us peons from organizing politically.

[-] vinylshrapnel@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 11 months ago

I think you’re right but I don’t like it.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] TheLordHumungus@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago

Haha, no one is gonna pay to use social media. I don't use Twitter but you would never get me to pay for absolute garbage brain rot. I'm already on lemmy for that and it's free.

[-] Discoslugs@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

They want me to pay to be advertised at.

Lol.

[-] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

to be advertised at & have nazi propaganda pushed on you.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[-] Tygr@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

I think it’s one of his best ideas he’s ever had. I fully support this move and everyone else should as well.

What a wonderful, genius, innovative idea. Such brilliance. I think he should also keep ads on there as well.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If all 330 MAUs paid this, Twitter would ~~net~~ gross $3.6bn/month.

Crucially, they absolutely will not.

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 32 points 11 months ago

Not only that, it'll create a vicious cycle where engagement drops to the point where the people who still post on Twitter (politicians, reporters, celebrities, etc) no longer bother with it, thus leaving much less content for paying users, with the end game being that Twitter is the place where shithead tech bros and neo-Nazis talk to each other and pretty much nobody else.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)
[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 37 points 11 months ago

Over on Mastodon: brace for impact!

load more comments (8 replies)
[-] athos77@kbin.social 37 points 11 months ago

The X owner said erecting a paywall around the business would ward off the bots, or automated accounts, that have become a bugbear for Musk.

Idiot manchild proudly breaks something he knows nothing about, complains when it doesn't work as expected, news at eleven.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

what is this clickbait bullshit??? I've seen multiple articles yet the wording is always 'floated the idea', but from the headline you could infer it's an official announcement.

fuck modern 'journalism'

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.net 25 points 11 months ago

It's an interesting thought, but he misses the #1 problem with online subscriptions- sign-up friction.

If you could just push a button and instantly be charged something, an awful lot of people would do it.
But when you go from $0 to $0.01, you will lose 99% of people, because most people can't be bothered to fill out a form, put in their credit card number, etc. Even if the amount of money involved is absurdly small, it's not the price, it's the friction.

Now if he integrates the app with Apple Pay or Google Wallet that will help, a little. But only a little.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

The movie about Twitter's downfall will be absolutely fascinating.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 11 months ago

you spelled hilarious wrong

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago

Well, if that doesn’t kill the site, I genuinely don’t know what will.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] matchphoenix@feddit.uk 21 points 11 months ago

Oh boy, now I get to pay to give Elon my dumb thoughts. Sign me right the fuck up!

[-] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

It’s surprising that in all these years, nobody came up with this innovation to make Twitter more profitable but in just a short time period, Musk was able to figure it out. Goes to show why he’s the richest man in the world!

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Literally every single day we have idiots doing Musk’s PR work for free.

Downvote Musk spam. The billionaire doesn’t need your help ensuring his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Looks like Elon Musk and John Riccitiello are trying to see who can run their company into the ground the quickest.

[-] noxy@yiffit.net 18 points 11 months ago

I think it's bigger news that that fuck is meeting with that other fuck Netanyahu. What the fuck business do those two fascist scum have with each other?

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

Yep, this is the final nail in the coffin. Most people will just stop. Good job boosting the Mastodon community, Moron Musk.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

Would be cool if he did. One last flurry of articles about Twitter folding and then nothing. That would be great.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Mastodon.World stock is increasing

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] tillary@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

When Elon realizes nobody wants to pay to listen to Elon, will he rollback the changes or start posting on Threads?

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2023
385 points (84.6% liked)

News

22488 readers
4289 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS