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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39011502

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[–] violentfart@lemmy.world 96 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I will never understand why the model — any model in any environment — is allowed to execute commands.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There is exactly one situation in which it sort of makes sense: Copilot integrated with VS Code, running repo-specific commands like yarn build, with direct human oversight.

That's it. That's the only situation.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

is there any value in saving like ten keystrokes it would take to type the command yourself while introducing the ability for an AI to hallucinate your code to death

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really. I'm using Copilot for my job because I'm required to, but I limit it to creating basic scripts that accomplish very specific tasks, which it's okay at. I never let it touch my actual codebase.

Every experiment I've run to test how it does with real code from a large, production application has failed miserably. It introduces mocks, it duplicates stuff everywhere, it fakes shit when real APIs are available... I have no fucking idea how these "AI" companies have managed to convince so many businesses that producing catastrophically shitty code very quickly is a good thing.

[–] trainden@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm using Copilot for my job because I'm required to

Required by higher-ups? How does that work? “Use the hallucination machine or you’ll be fired”?

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Basically. "Integrate AI into your workload starting now, or we'll replace you with someone who will".

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

And thank God it can do that too because "copilot build my project" saves me the intense labor and frustration of hitting F7 on my keyboard

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Silence! No questions! You will be assimilated!

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

To try to make it useful and needed somehow, when in reality it isn't.

[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol that's amazing. I'll stick with Linux!

[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 14 points 1 month ago

Me too. Linux already comes without warranty. This warning basically just says that if the user enables the AI agent all guarantees are off. They didn't bother putting safeguards in and don't want to be responsible for it.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is windows 11 not already a malware anyway ?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but now the malware is telling you it wants to invite friends over for tea.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Never thought I'd see the day where I'd prefer an Apple device over a Windows one. I know they have their own issues, but in terms of ai implementation and security they're miles ahead of MS.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Tbf, you're just swapping one glass of tainted punch for another. Both murder your data privacy and security.

I guess if you like Apple's form of abuse more than Microsoft's, more power to ya. It definitely isn't the escape hatch you think it is for privacy or security though, that belongs to the Penguin crew.

[–] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Privacy sure Linux has it beat. Security? Simply untrue, particularly by default, unless you put a lot of time into configuration, in not exactly sure where that narrative is from it’s completely false. macOS for example has way better app permission isolation that Linux does unless you use only flatpaks. Also the open source system scanner that gives devices a cybersecurity score that I’m forgetting the name of at the moment can be used to prove this correct without going into extremely long detail. Compare the results from macOS and Linux by default and it’s pretty solidly in macOS favor. I use both but this idea needs to stop being spread simply because people have a vendetta against closed source. I love Linux probably more than macOS but there are still reasons to like and use macOS.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I know, Linux is the way, but I mean that Apple's implementation is just that smidge less intrusive since all data is processed locally rather than in some datacenter somewhere. They'll still extract whatever can make them money, no illusions there.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

Has that actually been verified by a third party auditor? After the "deleted photos reappearance" incident, I would imagine that any Apple promise of "processes initiated from your device stay on your device" would just be a marketing tagline with an escape clause in one of their EULAs.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I think you meant OpenBSD, instead of Linux; it has the best security features of any OS.

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

Apple hardware is typically more difficult to install linux on, and is therefore less useful. I mean you can do it in many cases from what I hear, but I think it's still not easy on average.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago
[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think the real question is, is this what Microsoft executives use internally? If they are using Windows 11, are they using the AI agent? Or do they get to opt out of it? Or are they just using Macs?

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't seem like they're the types that are savvy enough to feel like it's a problem.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Unlike the federal workers who have one IT person per 200 people, they have 200 IT people for one person.

[–] Aelis@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There actually is a version of Windows 11 that exists without any bloat, AI or any other shit (most of the system requirements are also gone) called « Windows Iot LTSC », most of its updates are security ones, and for all I've observed it even escaped some of the crappy « windows killed itself » kinda updates. Any company can get access to it.

I don't know if they use it, but they'd be dumb not to.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

It's hard to believe but there exist an entire chunk of people who don't use PCs at all (Personal Computers). Being executive level is absolutely rich enough to do that. You've someone else to do all of that.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think they are just fed up with maintaining their own kernel. At this point it honestly seems like they are trying to get people to switch. If they now just release all their code under GPL then the linux nerds can fully support all windows software to allow a seamless transition.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why bother playing by their rules? We have Wine. We have proton. We can build our own "windows compatible execution environment", with Blackjack, and Hookers, and better compatibility, and better efficiency, and...

Yes that would be cool, but lots of windows software still doesnt run because it has some detection stuff built in that blocks wine. To solve that the wine devs would need access to the original source.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

~~warns~~

threatens

[–] riverSpirit@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 5 points 1 month ago

Or the effort to migrate is daunting.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Because they will give you no choice.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago

So, the AI chief dude is saying he doesn't understand why people don't want AI.... do they even read their own docs?

Here's what I see happening, probably very soon when this AI thing is released: Some malware developer writes an 'AI installer' that activates this thing, sets itself up as an AI on your PC, passes through whatever query you have to free ChatGPT, and then uses AI access to steal all your stuff or track you. Because if the AI model has access to your data, so does any support code related to that model.

[–] pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

How long until the AI learns to delete system32 at random?

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Laughs in Linux Mint

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