Can't say I'm optimistic this time. Surely this DSA member won't immediately begin backpedaling their leftist stances and start working with zionists and defending the worst ghouls in the Democratic party as soon as they are elected, right? ....Right?
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Honestly, I think there's a silver lining to people learning through experience even if you and I already know the answer, and I believe Bernie $anders being shafted in Democratic primaries, despite their clear popularity, was a catalyst for radicalizing lots of people nationwide.
Imagine if the DSA becomes a real party.
Imagine all of the excitement that would come with it and then also the incredible disappointment when it still cannot change the material conditions that it sets out to change anyway
its peobably nessisary if you ask me!
Your Party moment
Yall's party
a political trap.
trotskyists saying this is pretty amusing
They seem to be correct, though. Not that their alternative is perfect but I guess I'd rather have Trots gain prominence than liberals who adopt leftist aesthetics and waste a generation of young leftists with nothing more than Democratic Party candidacies.
Seems like the effective new way to redirect leftist sentiment and smother any revolutionary potential.
It's either that or politicians are forced to take an 'evil' pill the moment they're sworn in.
Trots are 99% correct about things, don't @ me
Well that 1% is my whole world 
(Meaning our beautiful man of steel)
Beautiful reminder that there's an infinite number of splits to be had about the remaining percent.
appreciate that you are one of probably 3 people here not totally sectarian against trots
the only thing trots are right about in the US is being against the Dems
I'm tempted to add a content warning to their feed based on the amount of times their trot tendency is mentioned when I repost their articles. Just so people see it up front.
WSWS as a source genuinely should be banned. Absolutely worthless.
A lot of party poopers in the comments and while I don't believe anything good has, will, or ever could come from Los Angeles, what other options are there? Are any communists parties running for this position? Just sit on your hands and wait for revolution?
PSL are running 4 actually socialist candidates for state level positions. And please, not voting for democrats does not mean not doing anything. We’ve been through this in 2024.
PSL are running 4 actually socialist candidates for state level positions.
Are any of them running for the mayor of LA?
And please, not voting for democrats does not mean not doing anything.
I'm not saying it is, but shitting on a DSA member running for an election without a better alternative candidate doesn't make sense to me.
Are any of them running for the mayor of LA?
no
I'm not saying it is, but shitting on a DSA member running for an election without a better alternative candidate doesn't make sense to me.
we will see if the DSA even endorses her (likely, but still). i think its fair to criticise candidates when they claim the socialist label. just because they say they are doesn't mean they avoid accountability.
I suppose, but criticizing without an alternative just feels so defeatist. Maybe it's just me, but it's like shooting ourselves in the foot without having another to stand on.
criticizing without an alternative just feels so defeatist
it is only true if your scope is limited to the mayoral election. there are plenty of things to do in other elections, and also outside elections.
No doubt, but also the mayoral race will have an immediate impact on many people's lives. I think it's fair to have it be one of many scopes one considers
i dont disagree with you. everything has an immediate impact on peoples lives. the question to me is more of organisational capacity. does it make sense to support every DSA member / progressive democrat? or should more resources be spent building up the grassroots base of the party? Obviously both is ideal, but in organising you have to make choices. And I know that conditions in the US are what they are, but I am very against a conciliatory stance with the dems and more for running as an opposition party.
hope they do well
Woaaah yet another hitler-crat to vote for? 
American leftists are eating GOOD this year
WSWS article lmao. Utter garbage trot website with shit takes that are either anticommunist or ultra, and never useful.
I'm getting disappointed in some comrades on this site ngl.
wsws
I immediately disregard any comment the Socialist Equality Party ultras say about other people or groups being non-left. I'm not even saying they're right or wrong; their statements on the matter are simply worthless.
^ Their front page alone has 10 different mentions of "pseudo-left" right now. They're obsessed with sectarianism.
By the way, in some countries they're banned from union strike actions after counterpicketing the strikers for not being pure enough. An infantile disorder.
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Well-spoken, comrade. The political and theoretical bankruptcy of the Grantites of Socialist Appeal, with their craven submission to petty bourgeois class forces under the guise of neo-Pabloite ‘entryism’, has been laid bare by their farcical second expulsion from the Labour Party.
By contrast, the growing Rank and File Committee movement, despite increasingly desperate denial from the pseudo-left Pabloite revisionist renegades, is striking fear into the hearts of the global imperialist monopoly bourgeoisie. Global capitalism - now more than 80 years into its terminal death agony - can only be transcended through the fulfilment of the objective historical revolutionary role of the class-conscious proletariat.
The emancipation of the proletariat must be the act of the proletariat itself - under the sole leadership, of course, of the one true world party of socialist revolution - the International Committee of the Fourth International. In their steadfast struggle against all forms of pseudo-left vulgarisations of revolutionary Marxism, David North and the Socialist Equality Party have won the rank-and-file proletariat to a genuine Marxist programme.
The contradictions of global imperialism threaten a third world war fought with nuclear weapons, and therefore the fate of not just the working class, but the human species itself, depends on resolutely exposing the Pabloites, Grantites, Taaffites, Cliffites, Healyites, Hansenites, Macnairites, Mandelites, Steinerites and all other forms of counterrevolutionary opportunism blocking the path to planetary proletarian revolution.
We urge all workers, youth and intellectuals stirred by this call to action to unite in Rank and File Committees and to contact the International Committee today.
Pabloites, Grantites, Taaffites, Cliffites, Healyites, Hansenites, Macnairites, Mandelites, Steinerites
this read like star trek alien species. not a serious publication at all
Ok, I'm sorry but I'm blocking the instance, and I think there should be a discussion about making a separate instance about elections in the USA or something. It makes no fucking sense that people outside the US in Hexbear know the name of a mayor candidate to Los Fucking Angeles. I wanna have some input to conversations about electoralismo worldwide, not the sub to be a circlejerk of the DSA. USAcentrism is a big issue in the website NGL.
This community was born from an American politics podcast. The Ameri-centrism can be criticized but it will never be eliminated.
I am also against the concept of fine-tuning the content by elimination. If you want to see a different mix of content, post what you'd prefer to see! Site engagement is down and further "purity testing" (lack of a better term) of the content is going to kill it off, especially in the least radical comm of the instance.
If you want to see non-USA content then feel free to post it. Though you're also free to block the comm, that's fine too.
To the extent that electoralism matters at all though, LA is significant on a global scale, having a population of 4 million in the city proper and 18 million in the greater metro area. It's not like this is some Nate Silver micro-analysis about some random town in Iowa ahead of Super Tuesday (if that sounds like gibberish, then my point is doubly made)
It would also be significant if a DSA tide does happen after Mamdani, so this story has more of a national relevance than LA in isolation.
Hexbear is made up by like 90% americans, they are going to talk about local american politics
I told y’all that Mamdani will be the America’s equivalent of Lenin. If he can inspire a new wave of leftists taking office, then it will transform the political landscape of America.
American Lenin has been murdered by the FBI
Good bit
LMAO
Why the cynicism?
Per the article, this lady is nothing more than a tepid democrat. She isn't promising more than what democrats outside the DSA are also already saying. The only promising thing here is that the aesthetic of radicalism is getting more popular, but the context she exists in is one that's ready to coopt that aesthetic and turn it into an empty shell if it isn't already one. We kinda need these people to be accountable to a democratic centralist party that has a lot more stringent of a political line than the DSA.
nah, Amerikkka is getting a warlord era before any Lenin
Probably. America’s a young country, they still have a lot to learn. But this is a positive and encouraging step nonetheless.
Was that what Lenin did?
and then as farce