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Move to arm all 2,375 estimated troops marks shift in rules of engagement for domestic military deployments

The Pentagon said on Tuesday that every national guard member deployed in Washington DC would now be armed with live weapons, and that they had begun conducting joint patrols with the local police department.

The directivefollows the ambush shooting of two guard members near the White House last week, an incident that has prompted the Trump administration to order hundreds of additional troops to the city. One of the national guard members has since died from her injuries.

The escalation also comes as a recent order finding the national guard deployment in Washington DC unlawful is on hold, pending consideration of the Trump administration’s appeal.

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[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 121 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

so CIA guy escalates war on civilians when civilians weren't doing it for them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 91 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They blame it on a shooting last week but...

“National guard members supporting this mission have been armed with their assigned duty weapons since August 2025, in support of civil authorities and at the request of the lead federal agency,” a JTF-DC spokesperson said.

[–] WHARRGARBL@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

This needs to be pinned to the top.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Why is this shocking? The guard had loaded rifles during the George Floyd protests.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, but they still are, too

[–] credo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Armed, maybe. Ammo is a different question.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

So, more blatantly illegal orders from Pete Hegseth? Cool. Add it to the list of charges against him...and as soon as Trump is out of office...drop the hammer on his nuts and throw him in the darkest hole the military has available for traitors like him.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fascism won't die with Trump.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Nope but we need to place great pressure on our representatives to put in safeguards against this in the future. The government has become like the early internet, too dependent on general good will and honorable behavior.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago

The government has become like the early internet, too dependent on general good will and honorable behavior.

Yes, I've seen this called the "norms fairy" before, since a lot of people seem to be believe that "norms" can actually stop people in power from doing bad things.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Hold your tongue, the early Internet was awesome. Surrendering rights for "safety" and cheap plastic junk is the problem you're an adult no one is coming to save you and no revolution or freedom was won without violence.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

White male power fantasies are what got us into this mess in the first place. People calling for violence are idiots. Non-violent resistance has a much better historical record of successes. Violence will escalate and lose long-term.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Interesting you choose "white male power fantasies" I see I don't even need to debate you.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Early internet was definitiely awesome, but it had no safeguards to prevent things like spam and malware.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes it's amazing we got rid of all the spam, malware, credit card scams and ads...

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[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

It will be a great day nonetheless.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’d rather clamp them slowly in a machinist’s floor vice.

Pic for reference.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

The slower the better.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No. They have been armed in every other Trump deployment too.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that according to the law, they were not permitted to have live rounds in their weapons though...which basically means they're "unarmed". Maybe I misunderstood.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You thought they followed the law. They do not.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago

That makes sense hard to have a massacre without armed troops.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Raise your hand if you think the shooting was a false flag operation organized by Pedo Antionette and his cronies

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

The one committed by the "former" CIA asset? No waaaay

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wonder which secret service man shot the national gaurds?

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago

It was probably the FBI that planned the whole thing, gave the guy the weapon, and goaded him into doing it just like they've been doing for decades so they can run to the news and talk about how they "foiled a terrorist plot."

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

This seems like trump is kicking the bucket naturally and they're trying to set up for when their "dear leader" isn't the figurehead anymore. That might be why the Mark Kelly+ vet video about following unlawful orders came to be. We'll have dumb and dumber running the country. All speculation though.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago

Just remember everyone: the real victims the armed jackbooted thugs holding a populace at gunpoint in honor of rapists and nazis. And if you don't Support The Troops then you are literally worse than hitler

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And millions of Americans are armed.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I wish, I really wish, the majority of those armed millions were not in favor of fascisn

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

Next up - each soldier gets their own tank.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

And all they had to do was sacrifice two of their own and burn what's most likely a liability asset.

[–] remon@ani.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

... with a selfie stick.

Gotta produce that content for the Department of WAR, yeah!!!

As I've long been saying, every active service member who didn't want to commit crimes against the populus needed to prepare to leave in November. If you only have regrets once shit hits the fan, there will be consequences.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure they will defend themselves against another false flag attack.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So... they were just warm bodies in cute little war outfits before?

[–] lando55@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean I figured arming your militia was pretty standard practice, what percentage of them were deployed without bear arms

[–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Search says open carry is illegal in Washington DC.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

That's only for law-abiding citizens.

[–] LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well isn't that convenient

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago

Free guns, everybody! Anybody know how the weapons are actually handled? Is there a central point where they show up to each day and are given a gun, or do they keep them on them at all times?

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