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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Statesians blaming foreigners for the most Statesian things, a tale as old as the US Empire.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Why do Republicans have to be secretly in the thrall of the Russians to be evil? Can't the Republicans just be scum based on their own will?

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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 156 points 6 days ago (17 children)

I think this kind of mentality partially absolves the US of its own homegrown horrors and ignores the imperialist and fascist parts of our own society that have existed here since it's creation.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

This is dumb as shit, completely pointless.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The purity of our blessed country and it's founding fathers must never be impungned. All corruption originates with those filthy foreigners, who are ontologically evil, and to suggest otherwise is proof of heresy, of being corrupted by the foreigner.

Washington protects.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 5 days ago

Anti-fascism has absolutely nothing to gain from dumb lib conspiracies.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The fuck, Russian doesn't control shit, they can't even control their own troops half the time.

Trump's just a shithead who will do almost anything when praised by powerful people, especially if given a shiny object.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (41 children)

Might help if centrists could stop calling people to their left fascists and russians for disliking genocide.

[–] goferking0 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But then they'd have to defend the indefensible

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 29 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Russia has got nothing to do with it. It's all on the people of USA. No one else

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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 73 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (46 children)

Stop trying to blame Russia, blame capitalism. I hate putin as much as you (probably more because I can't live in my own house, or visit my parents, all because of him), but it is your ruling class at fault and not some russian influence. Whatever putin could do is inconsequential compared to the wealth and influence the 20 richest people of your empire.

Your billionaires have decided that trump and fascism is the most beneficial choice for them at present, it is truly that simple. What you are witnessing right now is a natural outcome of a capitalist system, as intended by your racist proto-nazi founding fathers.

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 67 points 6 days ago (4 children)

You cant just blame "those pesky, conniving foreigners" when your country descends into fascism after 2 centuries of racism, genocide, and withering away of social safety nets.

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

None of this is simple, and anyone blaming a single source or calling it simple is trying to mislead.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Stop blaming Russians it's BlueAnon shit. The conservatives can be acting like garbage all on their own.

[–] Zoabrown@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Labeling everyone as β€˜traitors’ might feel satisfying, but it kills any chance of persuasion. Better to stick to specific actions/evidence and hold those accountable.

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[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

The USA

  1. Over throws the Russian government
  2. Throws an election and installs a president
  3. American oligarchs work with Russian oligarchs and leaders to subject the Russian people shock therapy
  4. A US ally takes control and US works with him for years
  5. The US literally takes billions of their dollars and freeze their access to accounts and access to global finance and doesn't return it or roll it back
  6. The Russians continually try and reestablish ties to get their cash back and fail
  7. The Russians are drawn into a war of attrition against the US and have to switch to a war economy just to survive
  8. Despite somehow controlling the USA, still haven't gotten access to international capital or their own money

US libs:

OMG THE RUSSIANS TOOK OVER

Americans are so dumb it is unbelievable. You're fucking them hard right now and you think they took over? You're just salty your shit ass government is doing to you what you did to my family.

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[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Quit blaming Russia for the US doing the same shit it's always been doing, the only difference is who we're doing it to, the people saying this sort of inane shit only care because it's affecting them

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Stop calling them Conservatives. They're Russians

Just absolutely peak liberal. You cannot accept that American conservatives are bad. You need them to be Evil Foreigners.

This is how you end up side by side with Liz Cheney, pockets stuffed full of O&G money, telling your base voters to stfu about climate change if they want to win the next election.

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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

we need a revolution to stop trump - the hardest part is convincing most republicans about the truth about trump. seriously!

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