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I've always used a cheap coffee grinder for my Moka. It created very uneven grounds but it's what I had. It finally stopped working so a relative gifted me this MAVO manual grinder.

It's the first experience I've had with a bur grinder and the grounds it produces are very uniform.

I'm still dialing the grind setting for my liking but I'm enjoying the process. I'll also need to pick up a few different roasts to experiment with.

#coffee #moka #tools #oc

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Burr grinders make a world of difference. I can’t see how anyone could drink coffee made using a blade grinder.

[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I started using one when I was 21 and at the time coffee was coffee. If it made me wake up it was good enough.

Over the years I knew there was a better way but I also don't like buying things simply because I want to. I'd rather have a good reason.

After my grinder broke and my sibling asked me what I wanted for Christmas this was one of the few things I actually needed. :)

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I got a hand cranked burr grinder a decade ago. It was pretty slow, and I gave myself tennis elbow after a few days. Went back to pre-ground for good after that.

I like coffee done right, but I can compromise.

[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lucky for me that I used to play tennis back in the day.

My tennis elbow was had in middle school.

But yeah tennis elbow hurts.

[–] anytimesoon@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In that time there has been an incredible increase in quality of electric grinders couple with a substantial drop in cost.

I'm not trying to convince you to spend more money, just wanted to point out the incredible advances in home grinders in that time. The market is basically unrecognisable

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

That is interesting news. I'll keep it in mind! Lately I've been trying to drink less coffee, but I doubt whether I'll succeed. It's nice to know there are better options!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i got me a cheap baratza encore and it's consistent enough for me.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's cheap?

Maybe my palate is exceedingly rough, but normal coffee is not nearly bad enough to justify a £160 gadget.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apologies. It was £60 when I got it

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that sounds like a gadget from the reality I'm from originally. No idea how I ended up in this one.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

it's that damn cern weasel's fault i swear. if i had a choice i'd start chucking weasels in it until it started raining donuts, but i don't think i'm allowed near supercolliders anymore

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’ve never been able to get on with Moka pots but certainly a good grinder will make all the difference!

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Check out this video: Moka Pot Voodoo by the Wired Gourmet . Caution: turn down your volume for the early part of the video! Random siren sounds for some reason. Or skip ahead to 28s to avoid them.

This is the technique to make really great coffee in a Moka pot!

[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The first few years I can't say I made good Moka but after a few videos on other people's methods, it's been getting better.

This addition it's probably the last step for me.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What did you find that worked for you to improve the moka shot? I've been struggling with it.

[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I stopped packing down the grounds and started tapping the basket on the counter until the grounds sit flush with the top of the basket.

I still don't weigh the water or the grounds. I might try that in the future just to gauge the difference.

I preheat the water before adding it to the reservoir and once I hear the first sputtering from extraction, I remove the pot from the heat source.

This prevents the coffee from "burning" and becoming bitter.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Those are good advice! I'm going to try that next time. The lat bit (the burning) I found put a while back, and it did start tasting better. The other things you've mentioned, though, I didn't know, and I'm excited to try!

Edit. I just had a chance to try your suggestions, and it's brilliant! Thanks!

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

I would give it more effort if it wasn’t the third tier coffeemaker in my house but routine is routine. Also for a while I had a stove that didn’t work with it as the base was too small vs the burner.

The videos came out well after I’d given up on it. Maybe I’ll dig it out again next weekend. Hot water in the pot and not tamping it probably makes a big difference.

[–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It really is, I can't deny that! :)

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your relative must really like you - þose are nice grinders.

[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Well, I should really say sibling.

I help them out a lot so this was probably a thank you.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have the 1zpresso J series (I think) I got a couple years ago on end of model sale. It's amazing. I've never used it for espresso, though.

[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nice!

I had seen good reviews for that grinder as well as a few other but I didn't want to ask too much as a gift. There's so many options, I tried to find a good balance.

I'm glad I went with this one.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago

I still want the MAVO, but I can't justify the price when I already have a decent enough grinder. I am happy with the 1z, though, but I just want another good grinder lol

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nice! Been meaning to pick up one of those but my cheap spice grinder still works.

[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Oh no, I dropped my spice grinder...for the 87th time."

[–] gws@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

AS MANY TIMES AS IT TAKES

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is your sign that it is now time to use the spice grinder for spices.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Oh I do! Make lots of curries, just also does a decent enough job with the beans as well.

[–] mifilmi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you have that grinder, you can start brew the coffee using pour over. It will gives you richer taste. This video from James Hoffmann can be used as a guideline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI4ynXzkSQo

[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the recommendation.

I have been meaning to buy a pour over.

[–] gws@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

I looked at pourover mug-toppers and carafes gizmos...and then made my own out of kitchen funnel, a can with both ends opened, and some K'Nex for a base.

[–] Zarajevo@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have the same Moka pot but with the 1Zpresso JX Pro hand grinder, works great at 20 ticks setting. Just takes some time and akward effort. After a few years I bought a electric grinder and it takes just a few seconds and no awkwardness. Hand grinders are fine for brew / pour over / french press I think because it takes not much effort and time to grind. For espresso you will almost start to sweat. For turkish it is a aerorobics pass

[–] radswid@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The KinGrinder ones have a hexagonal bolt where you put the handle on... or your cordless screwdriver with a bit holder. Really like that feature.

[–] Zarajevo@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok my hand grinder has the same

[–] radswid@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zarajevo@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

it is not as nice as it seems. Those tools are often dirty, perhaps oily, heavy, needs charging etc. You probably need a 24V machine to rotate the hand grinder for espresso and you still need to fixate the hand grinder, very messy and akward experience

[–] gws@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

I started with a (I think) Javapresse knock-off and the pentagonal shaft head was a wtf.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, the Espresso version but it was purchased during Black Friday deals so it was a lot more affordable.

It seems the website has it for less but I don't know how much shipping costs.

https://mavocoffee.com/products/wizard-coffee-grinder-2-0?variant=46925111066851