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[–] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

7.2 g acceleration. You could strap a human on there and they'd survive the acceleration phase.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

For an untrained person this might well be lethal.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Only 2 seconds of horizontal g? Not unless they weren't securely against the seat and died due to blunt force trauma from being slammed into the seat back.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

My cousin would try it, and she would bring me

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Well now we need to design the train with all seats facing forward and restraints to keep people in place, and we need to have staff abord to do do a safety check that everyone is seated and strapped in before we can get those 2 seconds of theoretically-survivable acceleration.

Come on. This is cool from an engineering perspective but will never be used on an actual passenger train.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol I was certainly not claiming this was practical, just pointing out it wouldn't be lethal in that sense.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s completely not practical.

7Gs is, granted, not categorically lethal hut average people will start to pass out around 4Gs if the acceleration is vertical, and 9 is about the upper limit that trained, fit Air Force pilots can experience without losing consciousness.

So 7 is nothing to sneeze at even under ideal conditions.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago

Okay, again, I agree this is not in the slightest practical, but also, again, a train accelerating is not vertical g, horizontal g tolerance is much, much higher than vertical g tolerance, especially "eyeballs in" and it increases greatly the less time it is for. Some early experiments showed untrained people could handle around 20g for less than 10 seconds. Also blunt force risks could be mediated almost completely by ramping the acceleration slowly, first reminding people to brace, then gently forcing them back in their seats. Again, ludicrous, nothing designed for comfort of human passengers is ever going to be designed to accelerate anywhere near that quickly and it's completely unnecessary anyways.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

That test sled doesn't have the mass of a train car, let alone a full consist. It may very well be used on real trains, just not with such impressive results.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah this link says most people can only take 4 to 6 g, but fighter pilots can take up to 9.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/whats-the-maximum-speed-a-human-can-withstand

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

As other commenter pointer out direction of force is important. Horizontal force is much less dangerous as it doesn't drain your brain of blood as much as a vertical one. If I recall correctly humans can survive 20-40 Gs of horizontal force compared to just 5-9 of vertical.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

That's an expensive way to look inside your own skull.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

Now we just need those inertial dampeners!

[–] DeuxChevaux@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

What a way to spill your cocktail...

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't want to travel in that, but it would be a good way to get shit into orbit without using rockets.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Railgun that shit up

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Your move hyperloop.

So what’s the limit of the human body? That’s more than a couple g.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't know but it seems like the simple answer is to just not accelerate that fast. I doubt this was an attempt to imply that we should do this regularly. It's just a test to show what the technology is capable of. There's no real benefit to accelerating to that speed that quickly vs doing it over 30 seconds or longer.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You can absolutely accelerate this fast if there are no people on board. China probably wants safe autonomous cargo trains at some point.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What about eggs lol

Autonomous 500kph cargo trains would be fantastic.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would they transport eggs this way...? Fast (expensive) cargo trains would be used for valuable products. For example minerals, metals, computer chips.

[–] sauce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you seen the price of eggs?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 weeks ago

That's a US thing. Also, have you seen the price of everything?

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

There are non-transportation uses for it. Namely for weapons.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Call me a victim blamer, but if you let your enemy build a superconducting maglev rail from their territory to yours, I feel like that's on you.

[–] gsdsam@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago

Mr President, a second train has hit the Twin Towers.

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can't think any non-living thing someone would want to transfer beyond weapons? 😂

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 weeks ago

Definitely a “look what I can do” test and not a practical example of how the trams in Beijing will travel between stops. Though it would reduce trip time!

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

20-40 Gs for horizontal force.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

How far did it travel in that 2 seconds?

[–] Royy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

If acceleration were constant (and my math is right), it would be 194m. We can assume due to air resistance being proportional to the square of the speed that acceleration will be more initially and less later, so realistically it will be >194m

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Is this like those amusement park rides that use magnets to accelerate really fast?