I applaud the sentiment, but uhm… I don't think the comparison is helpful. Fighting external enemies is very different from fighting fascism from within. The "the state champions freedom" vs "the state is tyranny" kind of different.
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Like… our main problem today is not guns and ships.
The main problem is media, i.e. the propaganda system that keeps MAGAts happy to shoot themselves in the foot.
The Conservative Propaganda Machine.
Before this is over, it will have to dealt with as the National Security Threat it is.
keeps ~~MAGAts~~ everyone happy to shoot themselves in the foot.
Imagine living through the last 30 years and honestly thinking you weren't voting for your own decimating because you picked the blue fascist team. Obama had all the power he needed to stop the WoT, the Patriot Act, the militarization of police, and the corruption of Wall Street in its tracks, but nope.
Instead he laid down the fascist asphalt so Donald could joyride.
Obama had all the power he needed to stop the WoT, the Patriot Act, the militarization of police, and the corruption of Wall Street in its tracks, but nope.
The ruling stating that presidents have complete immunity from persecution for acts taken in the official capacity as president, in which the judges made it clear that could even include assassinating political rivals, did not pass during Trump's administration.
It passed during Biden's administration. The Supreme Court basically told him "you can assassinate Trump and nothing would happen to you." He didn't even pursue him for persecution.
Democrats are not just useless, they're complicit.
But you are the media in this world. Everybody here is generating media everyday. Traditional media was replaced with Facebook and Twitter and reddit. How many leftist removed themselves from there? Is it any surprise that the whole world seems like it's using right wing talking points anymore. The left fucked themselves and most still don't get what has happened here
Better if it shows a Confederate soldier?
We will beat them again. It's just a question of how much suffering until then, and how much we actually root out the ideology.
They forfeited the right to be called my countrymen when they spat on the founding principles of the nation. They are foreign to the American ideal.
Yeah but they don't have an entire world of countries using guns and bombs to tell them that.
Fighting fascism is a whole lot easier when it decides to start a world War, every other instance they just continue on within their own borders.
We're trying to avoid the whole world war part but it'll come if these assholes continue
Unfortunately if a world war comes it will likely be to bomb civilians while the megacorps make deals with all parties to stay clear of their production lines...
They are foreign to the American ideal.
What ideal would that be? Manifest Destiny, the genocidal land theft from indigenous people followed by enslaving Africans to build the nation?
This is America, and underneath the rhetoric and the eagles, always has been America. You've just been brainwashed into believing otherwise.
I would consider a different point of view which is that ICE is a much closer representation of the "American ideal" than where you and your community stand. A study of key events of U.S. history backs this up, in my opinion. The founding ideals had much more to do with the supremacy of white, land owning, christian men than anything else.
As time has passed I think the definition of "white" has been reshaped, and women have been brought in a bit closer, but the United States government has never stood for the equality of all people. This illusion was able to be maintained in much of the late 20th century by exporting the oppression of the underclass to people in other countries.
I'd encourage people to reflect on whether or not their ideals of equality of people were ever "American" in nature, or if it might be necessary to oppose the United States government to achieve this vision.
The founding principles of the nation are might makes right and don't whine, there's no truth nor justice in the world, and the US has behaved exactly that way from their Anglo-Saxon conception by crusading into America annihilating the locals, then enjoying slavery, then destabilising nations around the world post WW2 power reshuffle, pillaging, murdering and raping their way across the land for geopolitical and financial advantages. In the little time it's been a thing, it's accumulated sins for thousands of years. Get real, man, if you know any moral, righteous, prosocial and selfless Americans (maybe yourself included!) they are so despite their culture, not because of it.
Not to mention that America inspired the Nazis, and after we "beat them", we hired them to run NASA and NATO...
Maybe the weapon is being held by a European liberator
65 million people died in Europe alone. Facism has a profound price paid in blood by the working class while the ruling class benefits.



the non-violent protests has been largely ineffective , it just shows that there is no resistance when they use violence. the last thing the people at top want, rich people is rioting.

Every third generation after the event apparently.
You didn't beat them before. Your grandparents did.
Can grandpa fight again?
Grandparent age people are who voted ice in lmfao great grandparents were world war 2 folks nowday
Well, can your grand father fight again?
One of these would be fun, but ICE would probably fire back with real bullets.
Holy shit that thing just kept going!
So what should we do?
Rocket launchers?
Gonna need more than a stick and a sheet of poster board
With a mortar launcher
Beat them with what? Mascots and placards?
Semiauto 12gauge slugs https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/philadelphia-chapter-black-panther-party-164000656.html
Edit: this was the original link I wanted to post https://lemmy.ca/post/58690676