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He continued to add, “in Japan, it’s closer to ‘literature,’ and anyone can read it, and it’s not just hero stories. There’s a much wider range of genres, like stories about cooking and soccer. You can draw stories from that. So I’m very happy that the manga has been so successful, because it gives me a ‘goal’ to aim for. The manga market is bigger than our industry, so the question becomes, ‘what can we learn from this?’“

"Another thing to add is that in the West, comics and animation have been considered ‘children’s media.’ As people grow up, they move on to live-action. But in Japan, that’s not the case. Not only is there a wide range of genres, but adults also read manga and watch anime. As a culture, it’s an ‘art’ that isn’t limited to a specific age group," Lee said.

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[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I can read most Manga from start to finish. There's a clear start point and a clear end point. It's usually the same author, so it's not a bunch of conflicting ideas about a character. And most of them, emphasis on most are not too long.

Superhero comics have decades of history. And most of their creators are either retired or long dead, so we've had a whole bunch of different authors give a whole bunch of different takes on the character, of varying degrees of quality, there's a whole bunch of different continuities, some of which even cross over with each other, so if I want to understand everything, I need to either read decades of comics, or start at some unclear point, and have a wiki open.

And then there's also the problem of popularity putting heroes in everything, even stories clearly not ideal for them, like Spider-Man is clearly meant for stories like "Oh no! The kid's science fair experiment went way wrong and now the gym teacher is a hippopotamus man!" and Batman is clearly meant for stories involving him investigating and unraveling a crime ring that goes really deep, but both heroes have to be involved in intergalactic conflict due to their popularity.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

This is a very good description of problems I have also mostly had. Some western comics are amazing, but Marvel/DC is all such a continuity clusterfuck with wildly varying quality that it's very difficult to approach any of their comics.

Manga is usually extremely finite, and it's almost always just a straight line of publications without reboots or crossover lore or anything like that.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

It's the crossover stuff that drives me up the wall about reading DC comics; with manga I read from start to finish and there's RARELY supplemental material I need to know to understand what's happening. I tried reading DC's metal series because it sounded fascinating and found an official compilation aaaaaaaand........it's this confusing jumble of specific entries in Superman, specific entries in Batman, specific entries in teen titans, etc etc

Basically you jump in around (fictional numbers to illustrate) issue 345 of Superman with zero idea what had just been happening in the last 20-30 issues, jump into batman around issue 234 with zero idea what had just been happening prior, and the same for the others as well. It's a confusing jumble.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

To be honest, I thought he envied the manga industry for its ability to work their writers to the bone. scared

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The guy cofounded Image comics, and he is the current head of DC Comics, the problem is coming from inside the house

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

Exactly

This feels less like an admission and more like a shrug

If they wanted USAan stuff to sell better, there's a lot of changes they need to make and the big two just don't give a shit

They make their bread and butter off licensing toys and films

[–] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Japan has a rich history of self-publishing, people put their stuff out there, and regular people actually buy and read it. It's not just people in the self-published space boosting each other's work. Eventually, the most successful self-published stuff gets picked up by a megabux company and "hits the mainstream". Their publishing model is completely different.

The closest we have to that in the west are webcomics, i think, and the closest we'd get to the Japanese model was if DC started throwing big money at these creators to publish their stuff. That could never happen because DC couldn't then go on to own everything in perpetuity, which they need so they can sell a doctor bubbleman funko pop without ever paying royalties.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Except most webcomic artists just end up working for a big name studio eventually.

I think it comes down to how easy it is to get around Japan to go to all of these small to medium size manga conventions. The U.S. simply can't sustain that level, as travel time is too long and lodging is too expensive to do more than maybe three a year if you are truly dedicated. Whereas in Japan, with the public transit system you could probably go once a month if not more.

Hell pretty much all the conventions around where I live were killed since COVID, apparently never to revive.

[–] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, nothing stops comic from being about anything else but capeshit, idk what to tell him. Like comic strips in the US used to be about, idk, a really rich duck guy and his three failnephews, whatever happened to that, huh?

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

He probably blames the readers

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

Manga is basically also capeshit a lot of the time, especially the most-promoted series.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mean maybe the title supposition's right for certain values of 'beaten', but its pretty ignorant to say western comics are soley capeshit you can find plenty of western comics/Graphics novels about cooking, sports etc

And there's plenty aimed at an adult audience, I guess if you choose to focus on only the output of DC/Marvel you may come to his conclusion but there's plenty of other presses out there(shout out Ghost Machine and Oni Press) and even the big two have imprints aimed at an older audiences(like Image producing Ice Cream Man for example)

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

you can find plenty of western comics/Graphics novels about cooking, sports etc

i've literally never seen one and i used to go to bookstore an comic shops.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Capeshit is far more popular so that's what stores will stock, but they do exist(I'll find examples if you want, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_sports_comics_artists maybe somewhere to start)

Even in dedicated manga stores, the majority of stuff will be Shonen, battle manga etc. SoL will be harder to find, I guess maybe the ratio is maybe a bit less skewed with manga over western comic

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

Couldn’t the same be said about Franco-Belgian culture with their history of comics and animation?

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I havent followed the state of comics closely but hasnt the whole Absolute series been really succesful for DC ? I was under the impression that run of comics was doing quite well . Ofc not as good as big manga series but those are on a different level of popularity.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

An American comic is considered successful if it can breach 10,000 sales

This is not a lot of people compared to manga sales which frequently hit the high six digits, if not more

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

Batman has been successful

[–] RION@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago

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