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I think I'm reverting a bit into some misanthropic and nihilistic tendencies, but at this point I feel like I don't even care about bad things happening to cis people. Everything feels worse for trans people, and I spend a lot of time helping other trans people with problems caused by shitty cis people. I genuinely think 90% of cis breeders hate their trans kids in some way and actively make their lives harder, even the lib 'accepting' ones. I'm like 60% of the way to thinking 'yeah I'm gonna be a terrible slumlord for cis people so I can make trans people live better lives, I'll house them for free by taking money from the cis by being an exploitative landlord'. I have the possibility of actually doing this. I doubt we're having a revolution, so like... isn't this an equalizer? There's also the fact that trans people basically have no familial support, being a landlord exploiting cis people would mean we are forcing society to actually support those without it. I could see alternative arguments, like maybe if you have access to a lot of housing you could just make cheap housing for trans people and that would foster a whole community rather than having a lot of depressed cis people slaving away for a handful of homeless trans people, idk. You'd probably have to deal with anti-discrimination laws with that scheme, whereas giving housing away for free to trans people can be contractless.

Obviously I'm a communist through and through, but why should I care about others outside the community when many cis people clearly aren't in the position materially to even begin to think about communism, let alone trans inclusive communism? Talking to them won't work either when they see you as a freak from the start.

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[–] RedLink@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Often during meetings a new comrade will bring up why we run services to help people if we could be helping people who are racist/homophobic, etc. One of my comrades in my group wanted to discuss something just between us so I set time aside for it.

This discussion was essentially; "Why don't we create a apartheid like state where queers receive decent human rights and straights and cis people aren't allowed."(not a quote) Likening it to a commune. There are so many issues with this I could write a book about it. The land that would need to be taken, the heavy surveillance people would have to face to confirm queer status, the argument of who qualifies as queer, is being therian enough, is transitioning mandated, the oppression of an entire demographic of people, most of whom never got the opportunity to be educated within America's oppressively poor education system, ETC.

But one thing that reflects yours, the previous point, and theirs is that there are people who do need help that will fall out of your arbitrary lines. There are bourgeoisie trans people, and gays and lesbians that exploit others to the same degree. Being part of a minority often gives you a chance to better understand these issues and educate yourself but its not guaranteed. There's a well known (in revolution groups) transwomen in my area who hates leftists and volunteers to infiltrate and spy on leftist groups for state security.

The sentiment here is falling back into chauvinism and I understand the sentiment (I'm a transwomen), but you will not find an effective solidarity among any particular group but the working class. Oppressing one group does not make things "equal". You're coming into power and instead of using that power to deconstruct contradictions of capitalism and fight against it you're appropriating it for your own use.

That being said, I'm all for just trying to house trans people with your available assets. I am currently living in a situation where i often house trans people who's leases were up or homeless in my area to help them get on their feet. I do this for free because I can. It doesn't mean you have to do the same thing, circumstances are different.

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

abusing your power as a landlord to benefit people you like at the expense of others is the best way to build socialism.

[–] Poof@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The hot new look this year is rainbow capitalism. Knowing no better the oppressed dream to become the oppressors

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

maybe if cis people were homeowners like us they could do their gender stuff in comfort of their own property.

[–] Poof@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was agreeing with your previous statment. In my city you can find plenty of unhoused cis people. You can also find unhoused trans people. You don’t win the oppression Olympics and then get a pass to exploit and mistreat others

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

oh mb I was doing a bit. We definitely agree!

[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Honestly how would this plan even work? Like how do you KNOW who you're renting to is 100% cis? I think with current housing discrimination laws you can't just straight up ask you potential tenants "are you cis?"

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[–] CutieBootieTootie@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Obviously I'm a communist through and through, but why should I care about others outside the community when many cis people clearly aren't in the position materially to even begin to think about communism, let alone trans inclusive communism?

Being a communist isn't some identity you can pick out of a hat after you've read enough books, it's a practice, and the entire mindset here betrays a complete lack of practice. Liberation demands that we find and work hard to build movements that include us and cis people, it's cishet and queer solidarity that will eventually deliver the goods.

If this is how you feel, you need to organize. If you're already organizing and this is how you feel where you live, you need to find somewhere new to organize. You don't fight white capitalism with black capitalism, and you don't fight cishet capitalism with rainbow capitalism. Organize, you'll meet the most wonderful people you've ever met.

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[–] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

It is wholly impossible to be both a slumlord and a communist.

That's not to say that communists need to be wearing a barrel with suspenders and drink water out of a drain, but being a landlord is a uniquely scummy thing to do. Most of the people who end up in shitty housing do so because they're desperate and have no other choice, they are most likely going to be queer people kicked out of their homes, the disabled, the neurodivergent, people of color, undocumented migrants, and so on. You're not going to get a conga line of cis white male chuds to skim off the top of. Society is setup specifically so they're the least likely to end up there.

This isn't to scold you, I don't know what's in your heart. You're right that you're going through a bout of misanthropy, and this way lies ruin. If you're fine with exploiting the people named above as long as they're cis then you're cutting yourself off from solidarity. I would recommend becoming an ancap at that point. Because why pay taxes to provide public services to cis people, or pay union dues to a union that mostly benefits cis people, and so on. And if the conditions are going to be indeed scummy and exploitative as you'd imagine them then if your tenants rent-strike then every leftist will be on the side of the tenants. Because again, by becoming a landlord you cut yourself off from solidarity.

This is the ultimate trick that capitalism plays on you. To convince you that a better world isn't coming any time soon so in the meantime you might as well become the exploiter rather than the exploited. But capitalism can only perpetuate itself through exploiters, however you might try to rationalise it. I'm not saying you need to forgive cisciety, fuck it, but solidarity is how we build a better world.

Also, you missed your timing, all the housing was bought up by Blackrock. You might want to get a finance degree and defraud people's savings accounts instead.

edit: also there are communities / communes / compounds that are owned wholly by trans people for the benefit of trans people, what you're looking for might already exist, and importantly they're fighting the good fight on top of it all

[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Also, you missed your timing, all the housing was bought up by Blackrock.

Not to be "that guy" but this really isn't true. The amount of housing owned by Blackrock is pretty small and concentrated in a few areas with a grossly over valued housing market, same with investment firms in general. Most housing in the US is owned by regular ass landlords, boomers looking to cash out when they retire, and rental companies.

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[–] Staines@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

Libs are ok with slum landlords and rainbow capitalism. You aren't doing anything they'd disagree with.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I am subject to discrimination so I will become a slumlord and exploit poor people

Like you realize the WASP nuclear family is probably the least likely demographic to be renting, right?

Obviously I'm a communist through and through

Obviously not

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[–] Chana@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

90%-ish of all demos have bad and reactionary opinions about other demos, particularly if you live in the imperial core. If taking personal revenge at substantial personal risk is the right approach to this, then you're basically just saying to be adventurist by going after a given demo. Given the depth to which reactionary thought has been entrenched through false consciousness, you would also surely end up targeting other oppressed people disproportionately if your bar becomes the extent to which a given demo is transphobic, homophobic, islamophobic, etc.

Being overly focused on a person's basic traits re: gender, sexuality, race, ethnicity, etc, which are all categories with this same dynamic, is actually a false consciousness in yourself as well. The harm caused to trans people is real, and so is transphobia, and so is the preponderant of transphobia among cis people. But you are falling into a trap of false consciousness, in part due to the fact that, as you know, there is no such thing as perfect transdar. You will harm trans people with your guesswork. And you will become essentialist in your thinking.

And if you're a socialist talking about doing socialist things, your project has to be focused on changing society itself through organizing, not individualistic landlordism. Today is the height of trans liberation in the imperial core. There has been literally no better time to be organizing for trans liberation.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I genuinely think 90% of cis breeders hate their trans kids in some way and actively make their lives harder, even the lib ‘accepting’ ones.

Some of the shittiest people I've run into have been cis lib 'allies' with trans kids. Not because they're actively attacking you, but because they will insist on taking up space in trans spaces and often refuse to back down when you point out why something they're doing or have said is wrong or harmful.

At the same time I've run into cis people who are actually willing to throw down and so I can't write them all off.

I’m like 60% of the way to thinking ‘yeah I’m gonna be a terrible slumlord for cis people so I can make trans people live better lives, I’ll house them for free by taking money from the cis by being an exploitative landlord’.

lmao critical support

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of them also hate their trans kids for other reasons, it's like a running tally. If you're neurodivergent, fine. If you're trans, fine. Both? You're out.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i'm neurodivergent but feel similarly. let me know if you ever find a way to nip that growing misanthropy.

though you do have the opportunity to house people in vulnerability while paying for that by landlording some libs. that would be pretty based, and a force for good.

there are entire orgs trying to do that, don't let ideological purity stop you.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think it helps to imagine everyone as an egg. Or at least has the ability to be an egg.

Or, sometimes I think "What if cis people aren't lying, and actually like the gender they were assigned at birth?" What if cis people are real? I just don't "get" being cis. This sort of thinking makes me empathize with cis people who are just generally confused about what we're talking about.

but why should I care about others outside the community when many cis people clearly aren’t in the position materially to even begin to think about communism

You know how anti-trans laws inevitably end up hurting gender non-conforming cis people as well? Well, if you start discriminating against cis people, you'll inevitably end up hurting trans people, too. Either because you're hurting an egg, or maybe you're hurting someone that's stealth. Or you might hurt a cis person that a trans person loves or depends on (We live in a society!!!!!!)

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[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

using this logic, why should we care about anyone in the imperial core

[–] CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Lol

Lmao even

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Are all the cis people you plan to exploit going to be able bodied white men?

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[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Real. They don't care about our material needs at all. Fuck them. I cannot escape the misanthropy either.

Fwiw I do think your landlording idea is bad for, if nothing else, practical reasons.

Terminal /tttt/ brain

[–] GnomeGodsGnomeMasters@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cismale here (feel free to tell me to gtfo) and I tend to agree with you insofar as many (most? All? Any?) cis allies haven’t done any sort of rigorous analysis on their own gender, socialization, and the massive privilege it begets.

Before I continue: How do you see us being better allies and comrades? Truly asking.

Personally I tend towards gender nihilism, but decades of having a penis and testicles, being socialized as, being perceived as, and ultimately “being” male (i.e. internalizing masculinity, patriarchy, binary gender, etc.) — especially at critical points in my biopsychosocial development — give me an unshakeable experience. No matter how much I choose to see beyond gender, to assert its lack of existence, whatever, I still inhabit a male body and feel at home in it and benefit from a society who privileges me as such. I am destined to fuck up, make mistakes, cause harm both implicitly and explicitly. Such is the burden of gender — and I have it the easiest.

My point is that yes, you are right to be dubious of us, because even the most well meaning are socialized as gendered people, and benefit from the privilege of gender and it’s more work than 99% of us can ever be bothered to do (at least, at present) to actually be the allies y’all need. I wish that weren’t the case, and I hope that it isn’t, but goddam.

I doubt that’s helpful at all. I dunno. I’m just ranting. Feel free to cuss me out if I’m making useless unproductive noise here.

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