this post was submitted on 16 Feb 2026
191 points (97.5% liked)

Fuck Cars

14968 readers
461 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 24 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I thought if that happened the fire truck would just ram the car. What happened?

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

You can find plenty of photos where the firefighters just smashed out the car windows and ran their hoses through the car.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why don't they put curb bumpouts at fire hydrants?

[–] doc@fedia.io 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've never understood why they don't for roads where there is a parking lane. Or why the connection is perpendicular to the curb rather than parallel.

However, as with most safety things I assume there must be a valid reason they have been installed in this manner for decades.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Unfortunantly, the number 1 reason most safty things dont happen is cost. Red paint on a curb is way, way cheaper than a concrete bump out or other physical barrrier, and it occasionaly generates ticket revenue. Win win from a city budget perspective.

Its why bike lanes are often nice cheap white lines, or in exotic US locals pretending to care, slighlty less cheap green paint paths.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

whenever you dont understand engineering decisions the answer is always cost.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yep. Read "There are no accidents" by Jessie Singer to see why tragedies like this happen.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

NYC literally lines their curbs with steel plates. Cost is not an issue in this city.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

I'm guessing where it snows this would be hard to plow

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago

So cops can park there.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 23 hours ago

Or why not placing them further on the sidewalk so there's never a car that close to it? You don't even need to have that spot free of cars, enough space for the hoses to get around it.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I’ve seen firefighters just push the car out of the way or break windows. Why not this time? Smash the window out, open the door, hook hose up.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Smash doors off, pipe water through the car. It is of no concern to me how much water gets left inside the car.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 30 points 1 day ago

Last time I was near an apartment fire, the fire department didn't even waste time asking the crowd if anyone could move the car or figuring out if another hydrant was near, they just pulled in, lined the fire engine bumper up with the SUV, and pushed it fully out of the way of the hydrant. Tires all fucked up and one popped on the curb.

100% deserved. Don't park in front of hydrants.

[–] pageflight@piefed.social 25 points 1 day ago

Maybe they did? It still would take critical time. But I agree it would be totally appropriate.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago

Perhaps they did, and the extra 2 minutes it cost them was enough to doom the tenant.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what they're supposed to do. Id be asking them why they didn't in addition to being mad at the person who parked in front of the hydrant

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I’d be more than mad, I’d want to at least charge them and see if their actions fit negligent homicide. Moral luck isn’t fair, but don’t fucking park in front of hydrants and it won’t come up like this.

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

They should make rain gardens in front of fire hydrants instead of leaving the space open for parking

[–] NoblityAbility@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Cars preventing emergency services like the usual

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago

The fact the plate wasn't shown is disappointing. Call them out and name and shame. The one parked there during the fire needs to be charged with manslaughter.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, advcoste of the devil here. Statistically a fire happening roughly in the same place where the same hydrant is needed for is rather low.

But technically the level of asshole-ness of the driver doesn't decrease because of this.

And of course there's no excuse to do this.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, statistically, each individual time someone does something selfish with the commons for their own benefit, the chance that there will be negative consequences is relatively small, or else the people around them would not capitulate to the antisocial behaviour. Then they chip away a bit more, and a bit more.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah I know, I was just joking around. People are dumb and selfish.