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Here are a few I've heard:

  • "Identifying as demisexual is just a form of slut-shaming"
  • "'Demisexuality' is just the human norm, most people don't fuck someone they just met"
  • "Asexual claims of discrimination are an insult to the Black Americans who struggled in the Civil Rights Movement"
  • "Anyone who identifies as asexual is either an incel in denial or has a medical problem that needs to be cured"
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[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Perhaps not the wildest thing, but easily one of the more shocking things I heard was when I was struggling a lot with certain aspects of my transition.

I'm colorblind, so things like clothes and makeup were, and still are, often big struggles.

A former friend, a cis girl who was around a lot by didn't know on a personal level super well, offered to take me under her wing as it were, and help me with my transition.

But when push came to shove, and I actually needed help with things, she was often dismissive, if not outright hostile about it.

One day, when I was venting about struggling with makeup, and that my colorblindness never really felt like a disability until I started transitioning, she told me that "It didn't matter" that I didn't know anything about makeup, and that I shouldn't want to because I, "would be a vain removed for caring so much about it" (I was hoping to learn some things about covering up beard shadow).

That was really the turning point in our relationship, and it never really recovered. She would say things all the time, and about how she was there to be a 'big sister' to me, but then tear me down when I actually tried to share anything about my transition.

Eventually things just petered out, and I let it go. But I still struggle to open up about my transition, as a result. Especially to cis women.

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"You will never be a woman. You will always look like a man" - my former therapist 10 years ago

Like, look at me now, you sack of shit. I'm cute as fuck bridget-smug

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah, I had a transphobic therapist once too! Dropped him once he started parroting the litter box conspiracy theory, like it was real 🫠

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gatekeepers deserve the wall

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago

"Ah yes, today as a mental health professional I will tell my patient that she is not valid and should always doubt herself."

how-compelling How compelling, get in the big pot of boiling water.

[–] tithonis@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I question if anyone has ever been as wrong as your therapist was. You're literally cute! <3

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

My therapist: nah-id-win

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

There should be no gay bars because they are a "special right", and straight people don't "need everyone in the room to have the same sexuality as themselves".

The thing that made this take even more ridiculous is that I heard it from a westerner living in Japan. She talked about how she didn't feel the need to take her Japanese boyfriend to "exclusively heterosexual spaces". The fact that non-heterosexuals are under pressure to keep their sexuality private and thus find it much harder to find partners at work or outside queer spaces had never crossed her mind.

I have my own criticisms about gay bars (especially in Japan) and how they can be incredibly insular and often have very toxic gender norms, but her take was so dumb.

[–] meler@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Being trans is wrong because it hurts the person that's trans since most people are mean to trans people"

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 days ago

This take is standard conservative garbage but at least it's just, like, a version of the archetypical Conservative argument.

"Your life will be easier if you conform." It is the negative peace which is the absence of tension, rather than the positive peace which is the presence of justice.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] meler@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

He followed it up with the zinger of "being trans is a sin because Christians won't accept you and therefore you'll find acceptance in the gay community and they'll turn you gay, which is a sin."

[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do people understand the words that are coming out of their mouths.

[–] ThermonuclearHoxha@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

Sometimes they very much do and the Sartre quote applies. Other times, no, they absolutely don't.

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

I'm a cis bi guy in college, with mostly straight male friends

People have straight up told me they assumed I must be some male-manipulator player who sleeps around a lot. Like they genuinely think people are bi to maximize the amount we get laid?

I told a friend I've only been with one person because I'm only interested in relationships and haven't felt in the headspace for one, and he straight up thought I was kidding

Also, I'm pretty masculine, so a lot of people assume I must be "mostly straight," with maybe a little attraction to femboys. And when I tell them I'm equally into women and gay men, they seem to think that means I probably won't wanna settle down with one person. (imagine if people assumed this for anyone attracted to different ethnicities or hair colors??)

[–] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Canceling a renowned opera singer's concert because he looks too gay while he's in your capital city giving the country's one of the most prestigious university's conservatoire students a masterclass.

[–] goferking0 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Completely ignoring how impressive that singer is, that just them showing how little they know about opera and theater performers. Have they seen most of the opera singers in costume???

[–] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

Our current government is against every kind of art if the artist doesn't suck up to them.

Also, the homophobia is just funny because the government let the cult members rape young boys in the cult dorms, and it somehow doesn't affect the “family values” like the LGBT people do.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

“‘They’ is never a singular pronoun” from someone who was a high school English teacher no less

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's older than singular "you"!

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even before pronouns were in vogue, I've been using 'they' as a singular pronoun my entire life in colloquial language without even thinking about it. English teachers tend to be prescriptionist pedants though, obsessed more with grammar and syntax rules than with legibility and communication.

It's like they think language is a magic spell that you have to use the right formula for

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I once got told not to do use singular they for a character who was literally genderless and non-corporeal

The person in question was like "editors won't accept that" and all I could think was "motherfucker, it's sci-fi, that is far from the most 'out there' thing in the genre's published works"

I'm writing a character now who is an arch fey and a patron to the MC. I use xe/xir as pronouns. It's kinda fun. Xe got the MC in a horribly 1 sided pact and talks in nearly unreadable legalese.

"[...] Unless you’re prepared to articulate a revision of an expanded remunerative profile then your harmonious departure is the most fruitful course of action.”

“You can go fuck yourself.”

“I am in parallel concordance.”

[–] peanutbuttercupola@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

I also got this one from my high school english teacher.

  • Bisexuals are just greedy
  • Had a lightly boozed up and slightly sunburnt cishet white man, finishing his lawn decide to ask me if I'm trans. I told him it's not his business. And he began to talk about his kid (AFAB, and so obviously trans it hurts) questioning that, "but she got over it".
[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

One of my close friends growing up was extremely Christian and literally believed that gay people's bodies were physiologically different than straight people's. He refused to accept that his prostate could offer pleasure to him the same way it might a gay man. Basically, he hated gays so much that he wanted to physically separate himself from the idea of them as much as possible.

Which was great for me surrounded by that as a closeted teen.

Fun fact, he simultaneously believed that being gay was a choice. Not sure how you reconcile those two ideas but I imagine he wasn't thinking too closely about it.

[–] goferking0 3 points 1 day ago

extremely Christian and literally believed that gay people's bodies were physiologically different than straight people's

he simultaneously believed that being gay was a choice.

That amount of brain twisting logic is on par with famers who hate socialism but they will complain if farm subsidies checks are late or decreased...

These people vote.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Chuds literally believe your local drag queen is putting estrogen in the water supply to target little Timmy and turn him trans.

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I absolutely hated tap water and drank nothing but cola as a child. The forced feminizers really need to learn more about children.

[–] meler@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

maybe a thousand years ago

[–] ThermonuclearHoxha@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just to further agree, it did in fact refer to all humans back then — the word for males used to be "wer" (survives in the word werewolf)

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was. In old English man meant human, and wer (now the basis for the word werewolf) was the name for an adult male.

[–] meler@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Trans people exist because of the estrogen they give chickens"

[–] peanutbuttercupola@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago

As we all know, there aren't any trans vegans.

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)
  • "Asexuals are just looking for attention"

  • "People are confusing children by teaching them about gay people"

  • "People should only transition at 27"

[–] agentant@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Asexuals are just looking for attention

It's almost the opposite actually.

People should only transition at 27

Why is this number so specific?

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Something something "the brain fully matures at 27"

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

"People should only transition at 27"

Shit my window closed. Oh well, back into the closet I go.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

"Asexuals are just looking for attention"

Is it that hard to understand that like, most people are asexual except for one gender, and asexuals are just asexual for the other genders too

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hard to pick a highlight but this one always fucks my brain up and I've heard it a handful of times from different people

  • "If you've had surgery why do you still disclose? You're not trans any more right?"
[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago
  • "If you've had surgery why do you still disclose? You're not trans any more right?"

I would pay good money to see this person argue with the UK legal system, who recently declared a trans women as a sex offender because she didn't tell one of her sexual partners she was trans.

[–] mouseirl@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago

[paraphrasing] "people with non-cisheteronormative identities should not bring up their identities to people because it's confusing"

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Their lifestyle will affect you, if they get elected.

[–] agentant@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

They're right. When I get elected into office bisexuality will be legally mandated. They found me out ): /s

Cishet here (sorry) but I remember reading a story about how some guy killed and dismembered his dad because he worked for the “woke-controlled government” - and I remember reading it because I was at a bonfire with a bunch of friends who are heads of local public infrastructure/engineering depts who happen to all be lesbian lol 🤷