At this point I'd be happy to have one evil and one good
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Half of Americans actively vote for the more evil candidate. That’s the problem you need to fix first.
I really wish I was exaggerating but it’s hard to describe it any other way.
Yep. I enjoy hypothetical discussions about how to fix our shit to benefit humans as much as anybody else.
But that's the wall I mentally run into every time: dozens of millions of people voted for the obvious greater evil THREE consecutive times.
And these weren't some kind of bland Romney v Obama elections that were very much two sides of the same coin. They were random politician v dementia predator Hitler and roughly half of voters were smashing that pedoHitler button.
Maybe if you're running against pedohitler, don't do shit that's unpopular with your base just because you really want to.
Oh yeah, the DNC is crappy controlled opposition that normally exists to make conservative ideas seem liberal/leftist to americans.
.... But that still means tens of millions of people actively choose the nightmare over the boring uninspiring candidate. Both things are true and both are bad. :/
Democrats knew they couldn't win with a pro-genocide candidate and refused to change anyway. They preferred trump to telling netanyahu no. All centrists got the only thing they wanted in 2024. They just blame the left they have always hated for the negative domestic consequences of their unwillingness to change.
Half of Americans don't vote.
Outside of the realm of politics, but one choice I've made somewhat recently that was "better of two goods" was picking a Linux distro
I've been an Unaffiliated Independent since I first registered to vote in 1977, and I have NEVER voted for a candidate that I really like, at least not for President. Every single election has been the better of two evils, and often there wasn't even two, and often there wasn't even one. I haven't been even mildly interested in any of the candidates we've had in the 21st Century, except maybe Bernie, and he's never really had a chance anyway.
I like AOC, and a couple of others. I've swing hard into the Progressive side these days. Time to balance the scale away from Conservatives for at least a half century. I'll be dead by then.
What about the "neutral of two mehs"?
I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me.
Now imagine more than two choices!
Living in Europe this is fairly easy te remember. None of the choices are great, but they definitely exist.
Yeah, it’s a choice among:
all out evil
Definitely evil, but still pretending to be good. (Weirdly,they’re the only capable party, and though at least half of the stuff they champion is awful, the amount of things they get done that aren’t evil is somehow still larger than whatever good any less evil party can get done. It’s still not worth it, to be clear, it’s just a shitty quirk of this political climate.)
Doesn’t yet realize they’re evil, but they are
Half good hearted but misguided, half foreign agents trying to sow discord
Great except for one issue, will never get a high portion of the vote
Great all around, will really never get a high portion of the vote
Guess the country and guess the parties for a sense of being quick on the uptake and in on the joke.
hint for the last two
I’m in favor of giving Ukraine weapons and pro European unity
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The UK also has 1st-past-the-post voting, yet polling is showing that people are rejecting their 2 big parties: Labour (liberal capitalists) and the Tories (sociopathic capitalists), in favor of Reform (psychotic capitalists) and the Green party (ethical environmentalists).
"It is infinitely better to vote for freedom and fail than to vote for slavery and succeed." - Eugene V. Debs, Appeal to Reason, 1900-10-13
"Wage-labor is but a name; wage-slavery is the fact." - Eugene V. Debs, The Socialist Party and the Working Class 1904-09-01
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No, it's not possible with unlimited corporate "donations".
Rs are left hand, Ds are right hand, AmazonEnronMega is the puppeteer.
They've made bribery legal, it's blatant and right out in the open. They all shared the stage, everyone clapped, thunderous applause
Voters can't out bribe them, they're too busy trying to make a living on half the pay their parents had
How will you get them to outlaw bribery again? Not legally.
(see Super PACs and Citizens United)
Ranked Choice Voting.
Where we don't just have to hold our noses and pick from 2.
https://represent.us/
A video about it- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfQij4aQq1k
You know what's even better? Proportional representation and an executive branch that answers directly to your elected parliament.
Ranked choice or STV just means you continue to vote against Republicans and hope for the second worst option of Democrats, but you can feel better about yourself because you put a left-wing party down as your first choice.
STV should only be used for figurehead positions with no real power.
STAR voting is slightly better in a couple of situations but yeah, that would be real progress
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Then vote in all elections including local, special, midterms and especially primaries not just general. Choose progressives.
We are where we are, because voter apathy. When you don't vote, other pick the candidates for you.
We have that voter apathy because our voting system is awful, and doesn't allow most votes to even matter. People should still vote, but that alone isn't enough to fix anything. As things are now it's damage control at best.
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from what I hear, depending on the state, it's not easy to vote in the US.
- In some places you have to reregister beforehand and you don't get a reminder
- sometimes the next place to vote is far away
- you have to bring a lot of papers
- the election is during workhours on like a tuesday
- there is a huge line and it's sometimes really hot out
- even then sometimes they delete you from the list without notifying you
especially in southern states, primarily black neighborhoods districts have extra shitty conditions to prevent black people from voting
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Protest and elect. Emphasis on protest.
- Get as involved as you can with activist efforts locally.
- Organize, network, focus on building solidarity.
- Vote at primaries for the most progressive candidate.
- Don't punch down
- Don't punch left.
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I'd be willing to take the worse of two goods at this point.
Yes.
Anybody who says otherwise is likely (on some level) attempting to convince others to crush their hopes of a better world being possible.
Texas just had to choose between Talarico and Crockett. Both sounded like great candidates to me and hope that Crockett can continue her path in politics (albeit without the AIPAC issue she has)
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It’s time to give up on this idea, given the outrage culture, the death of journalism.
We could have a race of Fred Roger’s vs fred rogers and someone would find or make up a scandal and half the internet will follow. For the foreseeable future all candidates appear to be evil, whether they are different from before or not, so our choice is who appears less evil.
Then there’s the death of the platform. Candidates compete to see how little they can say, to not give their opponents anything to go on, so all future candidates will not appear to have a good platform and our choice is who is less evil
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Harm reduction. If forced into a binary choice, I’d rather lose a finger than lose a hand.
Sure, but at some point ya gotta think, "Maybe I should destroy the de-limbing machine," instead of continuing to put part of your body in there.
(This isn't a criticism of you or your beliefs, just a jokey perspective.)
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Thats basically communism and socialism for me. I believe socialism would be better but its two goods either way.
So you believe that a dictatorship of capital, wielding the power of state violence to suppress its enemies and plan the economy, is better than a stateless, classless, moneyless society? Basically what you're saying is that USSR was the absolute peak of societal development, and while I do like many faucets of USSR I will disagree here.
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I don't know, but I absolutely support any attempt to find out.
That would imply nice things are possible. Surely you must choose between being against mexican rapist trans pet eaters or pro mexican rapist trans pet eaters as your 2 binary options.
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